[Pentium]

and I thought the G80 release was controversial.

I only watched the TH video, for now and I feel underwhelmed. Looks like the F87 will be deeply missed

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by CodeSlinger

Wow, and I thought you just had bad taste in cars. Turns out you are also a trash human being.

Speaking on trashy - insulting someone for calling men who are trying to be women, masculine isn’t insulting - it’s factual. Not everyone here is American and shares your perception of reality.

Terrible take.

[KindaSortaTerrible]

Wow I did not expect to encounter transphobic BS on this forum but…here we are

[CodeSlinger]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Speaking on trashy - insulting someone for calling men who are trying to be women, masculine isn’t insulting - it’s factual. Not everyone here is American and shares your perception of reality.

Terrible take.

If you or the original poster wants to use group of people (whether a specific sexual orientation, gender, race or creed) as a way of insinuating that something is ugly or awkward than go right ahead. It's a free country. However I'm free to call out that behaviour as trashy, bigoted and completely out of line.

Also I recommend you look into the many instances of fluidity in gender expression in animals, our human interpretation of two rigid genders is a very narrow view of the history of this planet and biology as a whole.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by CodeSlinger

If you or the original poster wants to use group of people (whether a specific sexual orientation, gender, race or creed) as a way of insinuating that something is ugly or awkward than go right ahead. It's a free country. However I'm free to call out that behaviour as trashy, bigoted and completely out of line.

Also I recommend you look into the many instances of fluidity in gender expression in animals, our human interpretation of two rigid genders is a very narrow view of the history of this planet and biology as a whole.

Yeah, that’s nonsense and I don’t care. He’s entitled to his beliefs, and so are you. You’re not entitled to name call other people, that’s low class behavior.

The irony here is how out of line you are by forcing your belief system on others pretending your “perception” of reality is fact. Ignore the statement and make not to not engage people if you don’t like their opinions, or you could educate them if you’re so inclined: you don’t insult them.

This whole society has literally hit rock bottom with the way everyone speak to and about one another.

[CodeSlinger]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Yeah, that’s nonsense and I don’t care...

Cool... so you just believe what you believe and couldn't care less about information that goes against what you believe.

I'm happy to live and let live *except* when people belittle and mock what brings other people fulfillment and happiness.

Now, despite your best effort to derail this thread let's get back to the car.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by CodeSlinger

Cool... so you just believe what you believe and couldn't care less about information that goes against what you believe.

I'm happy to live and let live *except* when people belittle and mock what brings other people fulfillment and happiness.

Now, despite your best effort to derail this thread let's get back to the car.

“Goes against what you believe” we aren’t going to change anyone’s mind here - some of us live in reality, others live in a world of semantics and arbitrary lines drawn in the sand.

You derailed this thread it by verbally attacking someone for making a comparison you didn’t like.

It’s like you don’t understand Irony.

Anyhow; this car looks like a super inbred bulldog, and I mean that in the most literally sense possible. It’s a better numbers car, but is it a better car?

There was a thread that had the M2CS vs the Porsche 911, and one person said the M2 was more fun because it felt livelier. I wonder how they would feel on this new M2 vs a 911

[CodeSlinger]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

“Goes against what you believe” we aren’t going to change anyone’s mind here - some of us live in reality, others live in a world of semantics and arbitrary lines drawn in the sand.

You derailed this thread it by verbally attacking someone for making a comparison you didn’t like.

It’s like you don’t understand Irony.

Anyhow; this car looks like a super inbred bulldog, and I mean that in the most literally sense possible. It’s a better numbers car, but is it a better car?

There was a thread that had the M2CS vs the Porsche 911, and one person said the M2 was more fun because it felt livelier. I wonder how they would feel on this new M2 vs a 911

Comparing a car in a negative way against a group of marginalized and victimized people is what derailed the thread initially.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by CodeSlinger

Comparing a car in a negative way against a group of marginalized and victimized people is what derailed the thread initially.

That’s your opinion and it’s noted. Moving on, we are talking about marginalized inbred dogs and cars, please stay on topic.

[BimmerFix]

Originally Posted by CodeSlinger

Comparing a car in a negative way against a group of marginalized and victimized people is what derailed the thread initially.

Not a fact , stop gatekeeping & just move on already. You’ve literally de railed this thread more than anyone else.

[NWest]

Speaking of moving on -

Here’s a new G87 review I hadn’t seen-
https://jalopnik.com/2023-bmw-m2-jal...ure-1850314300

[BadgerDog]

I'm just entertained by the sheer number of people who have argued back or given their opinion THEN repeated how everyone should move on.

Bros that's not taking the high ground that's trying to get the last word in. Lol. This thread is turning into a dumpster fire.

[NWest]

Originally Posted by BadgerDog

I'm just entertained by the sheer number of people who have argued back or given their opinion THEN repeated how everyone should move on.

Bros that's not taking the high ground that's trying to get the last word in. Lol. This thread is turning into a dumpster fire.

Lol - you’re late to the party, it was a dumpster fire well before our detour.

So bro - what do you think about the G87 reviews 😀

[moodyhank82]

Doug loves it:

[Humdizzle]

doug has interesting takes on M cars. Ranking the G80 higher than the e92 on his list, but still behind the e46 and e30.

he gave the f87 comp a higher 'handling' and 'fun factor' score than the g87. but less comfort and features. so they tied

[zero21]

Originally Posted by moodyhank82

Doug loves it:

His handling scores make zero sense to me. Other than that, typical Doug!

[n55f15]

First track test

https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews...m2-track-test/

[sl0m0]

Originally Posted by n55f15

First track test

https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews...m2-track-test/

Now that's a proper journalistic way to approach the difference in the power curve.

[zero21]

I think it's becoming clear, even to those of us who own the car and know it's fast as hell, BMW likely programmed progressive torque into the ECU in lower gears. 3K in second feels way different than 3k in 4th.

I can't really judge behind the wheel because I have only driven a couple cars with more than 350hp and it was a good bit ago. But, if you take into consideration all the reviews, and my own experiences, I'm guessing gears 1-3 don't get full power or torque. And that is very likely on purpose so it doesn't out accelerate the other M cars.

[MmmmmM2]

Originally Posted by moodyhank82

Doug loves it:

As much as Doug annoys the hell out of me, I sure do love his reviews.

[sl0m0]

Originally Posted by zero21

I think it's becoming clear, even to those of us who own the car and know it's fast as hell, BMW likely programmed progressive torque into the ECU in lower gears. 3K in second feels way different than 3k in 4th.

I can't really judge behind the wheel because I have only driven a couple cars with more than 350hp and it was a good bit ago. But, if you take into consideration all the reviews, and my own experiences, I'm guessing gears 1-3 don't get full power or torque. And that is very likely on purpose so it doesn't out accelerate the other M cars.

I've been concerned this might be a possibility, hopefully if so it's an easy fix.

[AlpineBoost]

Originally Posted by MmmmmM2

As much as Doug annoys the hell out of me, I sure do love his reviews.

Same, I used to not be able to make it through his vids. His voice, the way he talked, his gestures... basically everything about him was confusing as hell to me. At some point I finally started to enjoy it