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      07-25-2021, 03:41 AM   #1057
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That's for sure . Those people are in big financial issues .Because they lost everything !
They are still waiting for the investigations from their home insurances ...
Too much cases are going on , too much victims are screaming for help !

As we know : The home insurances won't build or buy them new homes .
A lot of victimes hired already lawyers in , to go in group court ...
It will take many years ...
Where will the people end up who's homes are uninhabitable, the Belgian gov't must have emergency accommodation set up in these bad times.
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That's just a BS meme video , made by you Hammy-Gurus .

But what really is going on ..... *That can you see below !
Just wrote another longer letter to them > in paris being much more specific than my last one, in particular why car 44 driver was even allowed to continue after his car was repaired.
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Where will the people end up who's homes are uninhabitable, the Belgian gov't must have emergency accommodation set up in these bad times.
I heard (for the moment) some homeless people moved to their family or friends to get a roof and food .
In the first floodings from last week , several houses disappeared completely , wiped out by the water , also new houses !
Our government is like "The Muppet Show" and currently there's lack of response from the insurances .
That's why victims with the necessary financial strength hired lawyers in , to go in group-court vs the government , home insurances and car insurances !

The aftermath of the flash-flooding from yesterday evening :
A railway crossing where the flooding came downhill from both sides !
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Max Verstappen and his video resume.



*Special thanks to a member who sent this to me but wants to remain anonymous.
VER is such a childhood bully....he still hasn't grown out of the push-my-way-to-the-front.

If you stop the video of the child while entering La Source (Turn 1)....it just doesn't seem possible that an F1 driver would choose to place all four wheels off of the track and on the curbs and painted section....at the entrance to a very sharp right hander of appx 150 degrees....with his right side tires just inches from the Armco....knowing he would make contact with his competitor....and then commence crashing his way through the apex.

This malfeasance alone should have caused the race stewards to black flag the child.
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VER is such a childhood bully....he still hasn't grown out of the push-my-way-to-the-front.

If you stop the video of the child while entering La Source (Turn 1)....it just doesn't seem possible that an F1 driver would choose to place all four wheels off of the track and on the curbs and painted section....at the entrance to a very sharp right hander of appx 150 degrees....with his right side tires just inches from the Armco....knowing he would make contact with his competitor....and then commence crashing his way through the apex.

This malfeasance alone should have caused the race stewards to black flag the child.
If you look a bit further than the crashpoint alone, that is how they approach the corner, you see that there is enough room and a free track for VER:



RAI just pinches in. VER couldn't move further to the right because wall....
If you wonder why the the stewards didn't black flag VER, it's because they've seen this too...
Really, it's very simple if you look at it objectively...

In fact, this is the same as Copse, but with the difference that RAI didn't leave enough room to physically fit VER whereas VER did leave enough room for HAM car to fit....
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Isn’t the seat part of the monocoque safety cell?
The situation regarding MAX's broken drivers seat is been posted today .
Here you can read the article from today =>https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-ve...-broken-crash/
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If you look a bit further than the crashpoint alone, that is how they approach the corner, you see that there is enough room and a free track for VER:



RAI just pinches in. VER couldn't move further to the right because wall....
If you wonder why the the stewards didn't black flag VER, it's because they've seen this too...
Really, it's very simple if you look at it objectively...

In fact, this is the same as Copse, but with the difference that RAI didn't leave enough room to physically fit VER whereas VER did leave enough room for HAM car to fit....
This snapshot shows "precisely the moment of the contact from HAM vs MAX at Copse .
Viewed from Ham's onboard . Check out the room at HAM's right side ..
Today I heard people saying : "At Silverstone a "Crashgate was part of the Mercedes strategy" !
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^ Even MX6 can see the sea of room on the right HAM could have chosen with a turn more of the steering wheel instead of causing a collision, did he have wrist lock at that moment?
HAM knew Max would have to take that trajectory yet kept doggedly to Max's intended RACING LINE.
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If you look a bit further than the crashpoint alone, that is how they approach the corner, you see that there is enough room and a free track for VER:



RAI just pinches in. VER couldn't move further to the right because wall....
If you wonder why the the stewards didn't black flag VER, it's because they've seen this too...
Really, it's very simple if you look at it objectively...

In fact, this is the same as Copse, but with the difference that RAI didn't leave enough room to physically fit VER whereas VER did leave enough room for HAM car to fit....
Spot on from you GuidoK explained perfectly and is why the Max basher isn't replying.
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I heard (for the moment) some homeless people moved to their family or friends to get a roof and food .
In the first floodings from last week , several houses disappeared completely , wiped out by the water , also new houses !
Our government is like "The Muppet Show" and currently there's lack of response from the insurances .
That's why victims with the necessary financial strength hired lawyers in , to go in group-court vs the government , home insurances and car insurances !

The aftermath of the flash-flooding from yesterday evening :
A railway crossing where the flooding came downhill from both sides !
Terrible sight at that railway crossing with those vehicles caught in a pincer movement coming from the both sides.
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Terrible sight at that railway crossing with those vehicles caught in a pincer movement coming from the both sides.
How one of the floods from yesterday began .How an empty road was transformed into a river in just 1 min. !!!

Play the video on this page => https://www.hbvl.be/cnt/dmf20210725_93546779
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How one of the floods from yesterday began .How an empty road was transformed into a river in just 1 min. !!!

Play the video on this page => https://www.hbvl.be/cnt/dmf20210725_93546779
I see that, OMW the muddy flash flood just comes down the hill without warning.
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If you look a bit further than the crashpoint alone, that is how they approach the corner, you see that there is enough room and a free track for VER:



RAI just pinches in. VER couldn't move further to the right because wall....
If you wonder why the the stewards didn't black flag VER, it's because they've seen this too...
Really, it's very simple if you look at it objectively...

In fact, this is the same as Copse, but with the difference that RAI didn't leave enough room to physically fit VER whereas VER did leave enough room for HAM car to fit....
You must be kidding yourself -
The aerial view shows VER behind RAI and VER can clearly see that RAI is angling driver right towards the apex and VER is clearly behind RAI and DOES NOT OWN OR DESERVE TRACK POSITION....so instead of knowing that VER is clearly behind and does not own track position, VER continues in RAI's driver right blind spot and punts RAI off and RAI nearly flips his car.

It is clear that VER's team should reimburse RAI's team for damages....sound ridiculous??

Fast-forward to the 2021 British GP and listen to the nonsense from RBR that MB "owes them" for the repairs to the child's car.
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How one of the floods from yesterday began .How an empty road was transformed into a river in just 1 min. !!!

Play the video on this page => https://www.hbvl.be/cnt/dmf20210725_93546779
Deze beelden zijn waanzin. Zo snel het water op komt zetten, onvoorstelbaar! Lijkt wel de Mekong..
Ik hoop dat het goed afgelopen is met de mensen in die auto die achteruit rollend de heuvel af kwam. Naar een lager punt wordt het er niet beter op vrees ik.
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Deze beelden zijn waanzin. Zo snel het water op komt zetten, onvoorstelbaar! Lijkt wel de Mekong..
Ik hoop dat het goed afgelopen is met de mensen in die auto die achteruit rollend de heuvel af kwam. Naar een lager punt wordt het er niet beter op vrees ik.
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Inderdaad Ed . Dit is complete waanzin , 2 maal op 2 weken tijd ! Het water kwam daar beneden aan die spoorweg langs beide kanten naar beneden gestroomd .
De spoorweg ligt daar beneden in een kuip , waar natuurlijk al het water naartoe stroomde .

Video van de ravage , beneden aan de spoorweg => https://www.hln.be/binnenland/live-d...omst~a6984a77/
De stenen zijn daar uit de straten gestroomd !

Ik heb beelden gezien , waar ik geen woorden voor heb !
Gisteren hebben ze nog 2 lijken gevonden in de rivieren ...
Om dit rampen probleem op te lossen , dat zal voor onze overheid miljarden Euro's gaan kosten en het zal jaren duren vooraleer dit tot stand kan komen.
Momenteel zijn meer dan 10000 mensen in Pepinster en Verviers dakloos .
Van de 2 overstromingen samen hebben in Belgie naar schatting 50000 auto's op het water gedreven , zonder de auto's die ergens nog op een bodem van een rivier liggen !
Het lijkt daar op een oorlogsgebied waar bommen gevallen zijn , maar het is eigenlijk nog veel erger ..
Gedurende de nacht wordt daar ook ingebroken en geplunderd in de huizen van hogere welstand !
Al die mensen daar ...Maar man toch ! Die hebben alles verloren waar ze hun hele leven voor gewerkt hebben !

Iedereen kent natuurlijk ook wel "De Waterval van Coo" en het Plopsa Coo park .
Vorig jaar tijdens mijn jaarlijkse vakantie reed ik met mijn ///M naar Coo , om mosselen met friet te eten in het restaurant "Le Val de la Cascade" aan de oevers van de rivier de Amblève , eigenlijk bovenop het plein van de waterval .
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En zo zag het daar uit op '15 Juli in Coo ...Om je een idee te geven !
Het restaurant waar ik gegeten heb , kun je op 50 sec. in de video zien .
De rivier de Amblève is de rivier van de waterval van Coo , en de Amblève is toen buiten zijn oevers is gegaan !

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You must be kidding yourself -
The aerial view shows VER behind RAI and VER can clearly see that RAI is angling right towards the apex and VER is clearly behind RAI and DOES NOT OWN OR DESERVE TRACK POSITION....so instead of knowing that VER is clearly behind and does not own track position, VER continues in RAI's blind spot and punts RAI off and RAI nearly flips his car.

It is clear that VER's team should reimburse RAI's team for damages....sound ridiculous??

Fast-forward to the 2021 British GP and listen to the nonsense from RBR that MB "owes them" for the repairs to the child's car.
How you can compare minimal damage to both cars at Spa to the near total replace of RB 16B at Silverstone.
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Inderdaad Ed . Dit is complete waanzin , 2 maal op 2 weken tijd ! Het water kwam daar beneden aan die spoorweg langs beide kanten naar beneden gestroomd .
De spoorweg ligt daar beneden in een kuip , waar natuurlijk al het water naartoe stroomde .

Video van de ravage , beneden aan de spoorweg => https://www.hln.be/binnenland/live-d...omst~a6984a77/

Ik heb beelden gezien , waar ik geen woorden voor heb !
Gisteren hebben ze nog 2 lijken gevonden in de rivieren ...
Om dit rampen probleem op te lossen , dat zal voor onze overheid miljarden Euro's gaan kosten en het zal jaren duren vooraleer dit tot stand kan komen.
Momenteel zijn meer dan 10000 mensen in Pepinster en Verviers dakloos .
Van de 2 overstromingen samen hebben in Belgie naar schatting 50000 auto's op het water gedreven , zonder de auto's die ergens nog op een bodem van een rivier liggen !
Het lijkt daar op een oorlogsgebied waar bommen gevallen zijn , maar het is eigenlijk nog veel erger ..
Gedurende de nacht wordt daar ook ingebroken en geplunderd in de huizen van hogere welstand !
Al die mensen daar ...Maar man toch ! Die hebben alles verloren waar ze hun hele leven voor gewerkt hebben !

Iedereen kent natuurlijk ook wel "De Waterval van Coo" en het Plopsa Coo park .
Vorig jaar tijdens mijn jaarlijkse vakantie reed ik met mijn ///M naar Coo , om mosselen met friet te eten in het restaurant "Le Val de la Cascade" aan de oevers van de rivier de Amblève , eigenlijk bovenop het plein van de waterval .
Restaurant Le Val de la Cascade => https://www.tripadvisor.be/Restauran..._Wallonia.html

En zo zag het daar uit op '15 Juli in Coo ...Om je een idee te geven !
Het restaurant waar ik gegeten heb , kun je op 50 sec. in de video zien .
De rivier de Amblève is de rivier van de waterval van Coo , en de Amblève is toen buiten zijn oevers is gegaan !


We see this often in the U.S., but very rarely in Europe. Vey unfortunate, because how can anyone prepare for this? The looters, angrily, are merely opportunists, with sad walks in life.
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We see this often in the U.S., but very rarely in Europe. Vey unfortunate, because how can anyone prepare for this? The looters, angrily, are merely opportunists, with sad walks in life.
Fire can be extinguished, but the force of water is as you can see...

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You must be kidding yourself -
The aerial view shows VER behind RAI and VER can clearly see that RAI is angling right towards the apex and VER is clearly behind RAI and DOES NOT OWN OR DESERVE TRACK POSITION
VER is behind but not by much. At the point of impact his front wheel is at the sidepod. So in comparison to the crash at Copse, VER is much further ahead than HAM was (HAM touches his front wheel with VER rear wheel), AND VER leaves enough room for physically fitting a car on the inside!

How can you not see that that is totally different?
Here RAI pushes VER into the wall (or into his car).

VER also didn't get penalized for this so.....
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Iedereen kent natuurlijk ook wel "De Waterval van Coo" en het Plopsa Coo park .
Vorig jaar tijdens mijn jaarlijkse vakantie reed ik met mijn ///M naar Coo , om mosselen met friet te eten in het restaurant "Le Val de la Cascade" aan de oevers van de rivier de Amblève , eigenlijk bovenop het plein van de waterval .
Restaurant Le Val de la Cascade => https://www.tripadvisor.be/Restauran..._Wallonia.html

En zo zag het daar uit op '15 Juli in Coo ...Om je een idee te geven !
Het restaurant waar ik gegeten heb , kun je op 50 sec. in de video zien .
De rivier de Amblève is de rivier van de waterval van Coo , en de Amblève is toen buiten zijn oevers is gegaan !

Mijn god, deze beelden zijn nog veel dramatischer. Wat een bruut geweld. Mocht je in dit water belanden dan is het afgelopen.
Als ik het vergelijk met de grote (bijna) overstromingen in NL in de jaren '90 dan stond het water in NL weliswaar erg hoog maar dit soort destructie hebben we niet gekend (het terrein in B is natuurlijk ook veel meer geaccidenteerd). Enkele honderdduizenden mensen konden tijdig geëvacueerd worden.
De Belgische overheid is nu aan zet. Slachtoffers moeten gecompenseerd worden en er moet een noodplan in gang gezet worden.
Het probleem is alleen dat er vele jaren en miljarden voorbij gaan voordat er verbetering is. Ik meen dat het "ruimte voor de rivieren" programma (reactie op de evacuaties) in NL 15 jaren heeft geduurd.
Sterkte voor mijn Belgische vrienden! Een land dat ik zeer heb leren te waarderen. Mede door de jarenlange prettige samenwerking met sympathieke en zeer kundige Belgische collega's in internationale projecten.
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Mijn god, deze beelden zijn nog veel dramatischer. Wat een bruut geweld. Mocht je in dit water belanden dan is het afgelopen.
Als ik het vergelijk met de grote (bijna) overstromingen in NL in de jaren '90 dan stond het water in NL weliswaar erg hoog maar dit soort destructie hebben we niet gekend (het terrein in B is natuurlijk ook veel meer geaccidenteerd). Enkele honderdduizenden mensen konden tijdig geëvacueerd worden.
De Belgische overheid is nu aan zet. Slachtoffers moeten gecompenseerd worden en er moet een noodplan in gang gezet worden.
Het probleem is alleen dat er vele jaren en miljarden voorbij gaan voordat er verbetering is. Ik meen dat het "ruimte voor de rivieren" programma (reactie op de evacuaties) in NL 15 jaren heeft geduurd.
Sterkte voor mijn Belgische vrienden! Een land dat ik zeer heb leren te waarderen. Mede door de jarenlange prettige samenwerking met sympathieke en zeer kundige Belgische collega's in internationale projecten.
Dank u Ed !
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