[ScottyRyan2019]

Originally Posted by rcouchh

Nothing new, it's Autoflex. Basically a glorified plastidip and it has been around for a long time. It has become much less popular over the years because you need to be an expert painter with a full paint booth to do a decent application. Tons of labor for a mediocre product. 9/10 installers will not remove panels like needed, and just spray everything on the car. Also a nightmare with overspray and you'll be finding it for years to come.

I had a car done with it. Removal is a pain in the ass because you'll never get rid of the overspray between panels. Certain spots youll find with not enough coats and it won't peel in full pieces.

No offense to the owner but vinyl/PPF will always be a better alternative. $4k for plastidip is crazy to me. From the first red pic looks like it has a lot of orange peel in the door/fenders too.

Yeah, something tells me if this stuff was the cat's meow then you'd see far more installers around and far more cars with it on it. I'll stick to the wrap.

[M2PDX]

Originally Posted by rcouchh

Nothing new, it's Autoflex. Basically a glorified plastidip and it has been around for a long time. It has become much less popular over the years because you need to be an expert painter with a full paint booth to do a decent application. Tons of labor for a mediocre product. 9/10 installers will not remove panels like needed, and just spray everything on the car. Also a nightmare with overspray and you'll be finding it for years to come.

I had a car done with it. Removal is a pain in the ass because you'll never get rid of the overspray between panels. Certain spots youll find with not enough coats and it won't peel in full pieces.

No offense to the owner but vinyl/PPF will always be a better alternative. $4k for plastidip is crazy to me. From the first red pic looks like it has a lot of orange peel in the door/fenders too.

Not sure I understand all of your hostility.

Autoflex is one option that BMW owners can assess on their own.

To compare Autoflex to "plastidip" is like comparing a rattle can of Rustoleum to BMW individual paint. They are NOT the same thing.

You are correct that Autoflex requires a high quality installer with a high quality paint gun and booth. That's because it is a high quality product, and needs to be installed professionally. It's just like paint, and requires quality control to look its best. Maybe your installer was a rookie or didn't know what he was doing. If there was "overspray," that was a terrible mistake by the installer, not the fault of the product.
That's why it is important to make sure you find a high quality installer, just like we should all do if we're looking at a PPF or wrap installer

I've now had two BMWs Autoflexed, and have had more than a dozen friends do the same. The result is simply amazing. It looks and behaves just like normal paint - - except that it has the protective qualities of PPF and can be peeled off, leaving a brand new unblemished paint job underneath.

I had my San Marino Blue M2 at many car shows and dealerships next to factory original M6s and M3s in San Marino Blue, and you couldn't tell the difference. Dealer employees have seen it and thought I must have somehow gotten an "individual" BMW paint job.

Autoflex (the latest updated version is "Clarity Coat") is now on it's 4th update, and it keeps getting better and better.

Mine was just applied (all 6 coats over 3 days), and it is thick and rich (and yes, shows orange peel, just like the original and wonderful BMW paint jobs of old). After it sets (about three months) it'll be cut and buffed, and ceramic coated, and will be smooth as glass.

This is an option for those who want the best. Short of spending $12,000, this is the best way to change colors on a BMW and add the protective qualities of a PPF. It doesn't yellow or end up with edges coming apart after two or three years. Properly maintained, it looks brand new for 5-7 years (or more).

No one is forcing you to do it, but I'm thrilled that we have the option.

I didn't post the picture to be attacked. I posted it as a "Random" thing I've done to my car.

[exmowner]

Originally Posted by M2PDX

Not sure I understand all of your hostility.

Autoflex is one option that BMW owners can assess on their own.

To compare Autoflex to "plastidip" is like comparing a rattle can of Rustoleum to BMW individual paint. They are NOT the same thing.

You are correct that Autoflex requires a high quality installer with a high quality paint gun and booth. That's because it is a high quality product, and needs to be installed professionally. It's just like paint, and requires quality control to look its best. Maybe your installer was a rookie or didn't know what he was doing. If there was "overspray," that was a terrible mistake by the installer, not the fault of the product.
That's why it is important to make sure you find a high quality installer, just like we should all do if we're looking at a PPF or wrap installer

I've now had two BMWs Autoflexed, and have had more than a dozen friends do the same. The result is simply amazing. It looks and behaves just like normal paint - - except that it has the protective qualities of PPF and can be peeled off, leaving a brand new unblemished paint job underneath.

I had my San Marino Blue M2 at many car shows and dealerships next to factory original M6s and M3s in San Marino Blue, and you couldn't tell the difference. Dealer employees have seen it and thought I must have somehow gotten an "individual" BMW paint job.

Autoflex (the latest updated version is "Clarity Coat") is now on it's 4th update, and it keeps getting better and better.

Mine was just applied (all 6 coats over 3 days), and it is thick [...]

I’m not going to attack anyone and to each their own but this product is a nightmare to remove.

A friend had this professionally sprayed onto a c63 and it looked like a maco repaint at best.

Before he traded the car in I help him attempt to remove this wannabe plastidip and it’s next to impossible. You end up needing a full paint correction from the remove abrasion. Not to mention the slight overspray on the rubber is there to stay.

The prep work involved before application strips the clear coat of all wax and sealers and make removal that much more difficult.

Even after professional paint correction you could tell the paint wasn’t perfect. I wouldn’t spray this on a lawnmower let a lot a bmw.

But if your happy that’s awesome!

[M2PDX]

Originally Posted by exmowner

I’m not going to attack anyone and to each their own but this product is a nightmare to remove.

A friend had this professionally sprayed onto a c63 and it looked like a maco repaint at best.

Before he traded the car in I help him attempt to remove this wannabe plastidip and it’s next to impossible. You end up needing a full paint correction from the remove abrasion. Not to mention the slight overspray on the rubber is there to stay.

The prep work involved before application strips the clear coat of all wax and sealers and make removal that much more difficult.

Even after professional paint correction you could tell the paint wasn’t perfect. I wouldn’t spray this on a lawnmower let a lot a bmw.

But if your happy that’s awesome!

I've seen several removed. It's not a problem.

But hey, if that's your view, carry on.

[MineralGreyMetallic]

Originally Posted by M2PDX

Not sure I understand all of your hostility.

Autoflex is one option that BMW owners can assess on their own.

To compare Autoflex to "plastidip" is like comparing a rattle can of Rustoleum to BMW individual paint. They are NOT the same thing.

You are correct that Autoflex requires a high quality installer with a high quality paint gun and booth. That's because it is a high quality product, and needs to be installed professionally. It's just like paint, and requires quality control to look its best. Maybe your installer was a rookie or didn't know what he was doing. If there was "overspray," that was a terrible mistake by the installer, not the fault of the product.
That's why it is important to make sure you find a high quality installer, just like we should all do if we're looking at a PPF or wrap installer

I've now had two BMWs Autoflexed, and have had more than a dozen friends do the same. The result is simply amazing. It looks and behaves just like normal paint - - except that it has the protective qualities of PPF and can be peeled off, leaving a brand new unblemished paint job underneath.

I had my San Marino Blue M2 at many car shows and dealerships next to factory original M6s and M3s in San Marino Blue, and you couldn't tell the difference. Dealer employees have seen it and thought I must have somehow gotten an "individual" BMW paint job.

Autoflex (the latest updated version is "Clarity Coat") is now on it's 4th update, and it keeps getting better and better.

Mine was just applied (all 6 coats over 3 days), and it is thick and rich (and yes, shows orange peel, just like the original and wonderful BMW paint jobs of old). After it sets (about three months) it'll be cut and buffed, and ceramic coated, and will be smooth as glass.

This is an option for those who want the best. Short of spending $12,000, this is the best way to change colors on a BMW and add the protective qualities of a PPF. It doesn't yellow or end up with edges coming apart after two or three years. Properly maintained, it looks brand new for 5-7 years (or more).

No one is forcing you to do it, but I'm thrilled that we have the option.

I didn't post the picture to be attacked. I posted it as a "Random" thing I've done to my car.

His hostility, and that might be a bit of an exaggeration, looks like it's due to his personal experience with the product / its application.

I asked about it and he answered. If he's critical, seems like he has a reason to be, and I'm grateful for the perspective.

No need to take it personally.

[rcouchh]

Originally Posted by M2PDX

I had my San Marino Blue M2 at many car shows and dealerships next to factory original M6s and M3s in San Marino Blue, and you couldn't tell the difference. Dealer employees have seen it and thought I must have somehow gotten an "individual" BMW paint job.

Sure, the average person couldn't tell the difference between a poor vinyl wrap job and a $20k paint job either. I certainly would be able to tell the difference between autoflex and an individual paint and can from the pics.

Not hating I just have experience with the product and yeah it looks good when done right, can customize colors, but has some big negatives as well. There is a reason there are only a couple shops left that do it. I knew of probably a dozen that did it well, and only 1 still offers it.

If you like it, who cares and enjoy. It still looks good

[Mr.McNutty]

A few shots from this past weekend. Got together with 50 other M cars to go for a drive, complete with camera crew and everything.

Of the 50 cars, I was the only G87. I watched the illusion of the “ugly g87” shatter right before my very eyes as many people were shocked at how good it looks in person.

[Smilodon]

World's tallest garage doors ...

[ScottyRyan2019]

Visiting the kid and I looked out his window and thought, hmmmm, the contrast between the CF roof and the rest of the car is striking.

[MASHCT]

Originally Posted by ScottyRyan2019

Visiting the kid and I looked out his window and thought, hmmmm, the contrast between the CF roof and the rest of the car is striking.

It definitely looks great with white!!

[752002]

The Linn Cove Viaduct (Grandfather Mountain) on the Blue Ridge Parkway.

[752002]

Ivanhoe underpass in Orlando.

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

Originally Posted by 752002

The Linn Cove Viaduct (Grandfather Mountain) on the Blue Ridge Parkway.

A blue M2 on the Blue Ridge Parkway. Amazing shot & assuming the car was parked or maybe you had someone photograph this from a pre planned location up above. Was the car static or moving?

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

Originally Posted by Mr.McNutty

A few shots from this past weekend. Got together with 50 other M cars to go for a drive, complete with camera crew and everything.

Of the 50 cars, I was the only G87. I watched the illusion of the “ugly g87” shatter right before my very eyes as many people were shocked at how good it looks in person.

Wish I would've known about this meetup. Had I been free I could've added a very stout & properly modified yet fully restored M SUV to the mix.

Just wish that last photo didn't have the rear bumper chopped off.

[752002]

Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

A blue M2 on the Blue Ridge Parkway. Amazing shot & assuming the car was parked or maybe you had someone photograph this from a pre planned location up above. Was the car static or moving?

The car was moving. My girlfriend likes to climb things 😎 I have seen photos taken from this spot so I knew their was a likely path. Went back and forth with the car many times (easy turnaround locations at both ends). This photo was taken with a phone. Next time we’ll use a DSLR.

[Click_ID]

Haven't taken a photo dump in a while, so here we go! Hope everyone is having a good one!

[murderspice]

Originally Posted by Click_ID

Haven't taken a photo dump in a while, so here we go! Hope everyone is having a good one!

Ironic.

[LAGWAGN]

Originally Posted by Click_ID

Haven't taken a photo dump in a while, so here we go! Hope everyone is having a good one!

I nearly mentioned LSB on the ‘color thread’ but was afraid to share an opinion. 😁

Stunning! Everything about it!

[iifymbro]

Originally Posted by 752002

The car was moving. My girlfriend likes to climb things 😎 I have seen photos taken from this spot so I knew their was a likely path. Went back and forth with the car many times (easy turnaround locations at both ends). This photo was taken with a phone. Next time we’ll use a DSLR.

looks like a magazine photo, well done especially with a phone cam

[BroDoze]

Beautiful!

[Alpine*]

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[ScottyRyan2019]

Bimmer 1 mini-rally...it was me against American muscle lol.

Some fun cars. A twin-turbo GT350 that is currently running 6 PSI on 93 octane at 800 WHP.... and is capable of 18 PSI on E85... you can do the HP math on that one.

A 2012 ZR1, a 2019 HPE 1200 ZR1, a 2016 GT, Camaro ZL1, and a few late arrivals not pictured.

Fun fact, inside that garage is a pre-production yellow with black stripes 2016 GT350R. It was one of the media cars in publications such as Road and Track, Motorweek, etc. It's not a garage queen by any means. Really fun to see it and a great day for cruising.