[Bimmerguy618]

Originally Posted by Kmj442

Thats weird, I just looked and it doesn't have a destination for me...

Looks like this captain had too many margaritas too and decided to take the scenic circle route?

I can see on MarineTraffic the destination is Galveston.

[BimmersAndBoilermakers]

Originally Posted by Bimmerguy618

I can see on MarineTraffic the destination is Galveston.

Kmj442 MarineTraffic is where I saw the Galveston destination as well.

We're all going to be experts at ship tracking and logistics by the end of this

[Legit]

If my car isn't on the Toronto I'm gonna punch a cat and go order a Porsche

[xiven]

Originally Posted by Legit

If my car isn't on the Toronto I'm gonna punch a cat and go order a Porsche

I'm leaning toward a C8 even though I don't care for domestic. Its not practical either but I'd deal with it. Resell is still good for the time being.

[Bimmerguy618]

Well I couldn't wait any longer and I called Genius. They told me the same thing - that the last update they see is that it was on way to the port as of September 28th I asked if it's possible they won't get an update till the ship gets to the US. She said it's possible but typically they know when the car gets on the ship. I don't know man. Maybe somehow it'll update later this week after it leaves Altamira. But I have no idea.

[Rickyj4u]

Originally Posted by Bimmerguy618

Well I couldn't wait any longer and I called Genius. They told me the same thing - that the last update they see is that it was on way to the port as of September 28th I asked if it's possible they won't get an update till the ship gets to the US. She said it's possible but typically they know when the car gets on the ship. I don't know man. Maybe somehow it'll update later this week after it leaves Altamira. But I have no idea.

Probably going to refrain from calling “genius” or whatever they called them selves. I have not lost hope yet because someone in this group has to see a status update….i think we just need to give it time.

[Bimmerguy618]

Originally Posted by Rickyj4u

Probably going to refrain from calling “genius” or whatever they called them selves. I have not lost hope yet because someone in this group has to see a status update….i think we just need to give it time.

Yeah it would be insane if no one in this group is on that ship. Let's wait and see. I won't give up hope yet.

[mtoo]

Originally Posted by Bimmerguy618

Well I couldn't wait any longer and I called Genius. They told me the same thing - that the last update they see is that it was on way to the port as of September 28th I asked if it's possible they won't get an update till the ship gets to the US. She said it's possible but typically they know when the car gets on the ship. I don't know man. Maybe somehow it'll update later this week after it leaves Altamira. But I have no idea.

For reference, on the Glovis Cardinal trip that left Veracruz on Sept 24, some folks who got picked up saw their BMW Tracker status change on Sept 28th. For others, they knew from BMWGenius Oct 5 and saw their tracker update on Oct 6 (same day as arriving at Galveston). My guess is that the folks who found out on Oct 5/6 got picked up in Altamira (as confirmed by importinfo that cars were picked up in both locations).

Long story short, BMWGenius knew 3 days after the ship set sail, and the tracker app knew 4 days later. (And people called on days 0, 1, and 2 and were told their car wasn't on the ship, which later turned out false). However, once people start getting their status changed on the tracker app after Altamira, if your status doesn't update and BMWGenius doesn't know you're on a ship, then you're probably not.

[Badge]

Originally Posted by Rickyj4u

Probably going to refrain from calling “genius” or whatever they called them selves. I have not lost hope yet because someone in this group has to see a status update….i think we just need to give it time.

From the way I've read things recently and speaking with my CA, I would expect the cars to be leaving from Altamira. I agree that it's worth holding onto some hope for a few more days until it departs from there. I'll be checking the "clossing date and ETA" pdf over the next few days to see when the sunrise is being loaded.

https://www.atpaltamira.com.mx/en/servicio-a-clientes/

[baron95]

I think the status updates for the US "Genius" and the US CAs when the cars are officially owned by BMW North America, with a once a day update.

The car ownership is with BMW Groupe Mexico during production. Then it gets released to distribution (which I think it is BMW AG). Then the ownership goes to BMW North America after shipping.

So it is a black hole for the US CAs and US Genius until it is in transit to BMW North America, and their systems fully update.

(any way, some speculation above, but I think this is roughly how it goes)

[Lander1118]

When’s Glovis Sunrise get to Altamira?

[Bimmerguy618]

Originally Posted by Lander1118

When’s Glovis Sunrise get to Altamira?

It's supposed to be tonight at 10:30 PM ET. Hopefully it's a pretty quick stop there.

[mtoo]

Originally Posted by Lander1118

When’s Glovis Sunrise get to Altamira?

10:30pm EST tonight. My guess is that it will be there for 2 days and then ship out on Nov 9, and then the Brunswick schedule would be adjusted to Nov 13 or so. But I'm surprised there haven't been any Brunswick schedule changes yet, so who knows.

On a side note, I called BMWGenius to ask for updates, and they said no updates, other than the expected wait timeframe was extended to 4-6 weeks for a ship from the time you're in RFT. That's consistent with what others have said here, but figured I'd provide another data point.

[Lander1118]

So what I see is said in this forum is we should see an update tonight or tomorrow?

[hasten]

My CA told me just stop calling Genius lol. I've only called a handful of times and you can get wildly different information depending on who you speak to.

[CadolinaRipr]

They should just let us all track our cars via GPS - that would end most all annoying repetitive calls to Genius and our CAs.

[M2-Bob]

Originally Posted by CadolinaRipr

They should just let us all track our cars via GPS - that would end most all annoying repetitive calls to Genius and our CAs.

This!!!

You would think BMW could at least track the cars using the built-in GPS.

[Lander1118]

I’m pretty sure you would have people going to the warehouse and try and acquire their cars which would cause more trouble than good unfortunately

[k-m2-j442]

Originally Posted by 335xi-Bob

This!!!

You would think BMW could at least track the cars using the built-in GPS.

Only the cars know where they are...GPS is single direction so unless theres extra hardware installed it wouldn't work.

GPS works by calculating the time difference of a received signal from multiple (at least 3 to triangulate, but generally MANY more) to determine where they are and putting yourself on a "map"

If they wanted to do this, they'd have to send that calculated location to some system to put it on a map (which is what the vessels are doing for themselves)

[baron95]

Originally Posted by Lander1118

I’m pretty sure you would have people going to the warehouse and try and acquire their cars which would cause more trouble than good unfortunately

Yes, and next we'd want to have live images from warehouse/ship cameras and overhead drone images as the trucks move down the road.

It is all coming.

I think a decade or two from now it will be easy to track a large object like a car as it moves through public cameras and the built-in cameras and location trackers transmits updates.

Then this forum will be like...."my K87 M2 jut took exit 17 of I95 on the transporter truck".

[Lander1118]

Originally Posted by baron95

Yes, and next we'd want to have live images from warehouse/ship cameras and overhead drone images as the trucks move down the road.

It is all coming.

I think a decade or two from now it will be easy to track a large object like a car as it moves through public cameras and the built-in cameras and location trackers transmits updates.

Then this forum will be like...."my L87 M2 jut took exit 17 or I95".

“my L87 M2 jut took exit 17” 🤣🤣

[k-m2-j442]

Some additional information about GPS:

GPS also wouldn't work on the ships as unless they are on the top with an open view of the sky, the signal would not get to the GPS unit for processing (example, why you lose GPS when going in a tunnel for example)

Also where these ships generally travel at sea there won't be any sort of cellular signal so even if the car has built in cellular (hotspot or otherwise) it won't do any good in getting that info back to whoever