[D4VE]

This might be the same as the g87.

https://www.zunsport.com/en/bmw-m3-c...-cooler-grille

[oldbmwtech]

Originally Posted by MPR

oldbmwtech where the skid plate mounts towards the front, is there anything metallic that the plate screws into or at least rests on, or is it screwing into and resting only the front bumper plastic/rubber? Kind of worried that this may be useless for any significant impacts

The front screws into the plastic front bumper no metal, kinda cheesy but is seems to work. I do know that when I was tracking this car I went of course hit a curbing and the hit was taken by the skid plate under the oil pan and the cooler wasn't touched. I guess I got lucky. This was before an oil cooler skid plate was available.

[MPR]

Originally Posted by oldbmwtech

The front screws into the plastic front bumper no metal, kinda cheesy but is seems to work. I do know that when I was tracking this car I went of course hit a curbing and the hit was taken by the skid plate under the oil pan and the cooler wasn't touched. I guess I got lucky. This was before an oil cooler skid plate was available.

That sucks, but hopefully when forced it eventually reaches metal after layers of bumper. I may email Turner about this

[ninjaturtle]

So, is this also the location of the oil cooler on a 2023 230i xdrive without ztk package?

[MPR]

Originally Posted by ninjaturtle

So, is this also the location of the oil cooler on a 2023 230i xdrive without ztk package?

Is ZTK available on the 230?

Its my understanding that this cooler is only included on ZTK-equipped cars.

[MPR]

This came in today. It's much more heavy duty than I was expecting, which is a good thing.

[oldbmwtech]

Originally Posted by MPR

This came in today. It's much more heavy duty than I was expecting, which is a good thing.

Pretty, too bad it is at the bottom where no one sees it. I wanted to hang it in my house but the wife was not thrilled.

Note when installing there is a plastic piece at the rear which I removed. This will make it easier to install the brackets. You will understand this when you install it.

[MPR]

Originally Posted by MPR

That sucks, but hopefully when forced it eventually reaches metal after layers of bumper. I may email Turner about this

I got an answer on this

"really it's designed to protect from general smaller debris that could crack the plastic or cause it to flex too far. Ours is quite a bit stiffer and it would take a lot more force to cause it to move or deform, but driving up on a concrete parking block or massive stone would still cause some damage potentially"

[sclui56]

Originally Posted by MPR

I got an answer on this

"really it's designed to protect from general smaller debris that could crack the plastic or cause it to flex too far. Ours is quite a bit stiffer and it would take a lot more force to cause it to move or deform, but driving up on a concrete parking block or massive stone would still cause some damage potentially"

Sort of suspected that when I ordered, thanks for the confirmation. Still gives us better odds than a wide open belly.

[Vivek.]

Originally Posted by mblaucoupe135

That's true, but my insurance company said since I was driving when it happened it will be under collision.

Any flying object contacting your vehicle while you are driving should be classed under comprehensive. If it was on the ground, its collision.


Did you ever get a conclusion regarding whether or not you need a new engine?

[MPR]

Originally Posted by Vivek.

Any flying object contacting your vehicle while you are driving should be classed under comprehensive. If it was on the ground, its collision.


Did you ever get a conclusion regarding whether or not you need a new engine?

I think that's a stationary object, not a rock getting kicked up. If you hit a parking block, different story.

[Vivek.]

Originally Posted by MPR

I think that's a stationary object, not a rock getting kicked up. If you hit a parking block, different story.

So at least for me when I went thru this in CA 18 months ago, totaled my e34 one night with some debris on the freeway. If it was on the ground (regardless of stationary or not) it would be a collision claim. If it was flying in the air, it was comprehensive.

So say a car wheel is rolling across the freeway and you hit it, that would be a collision claim. If the truck in front of you drops a wheel out of the bed, it bounces and hits your fender while in the air, that is comprehensive.

In OP's case, it must have been in the air when his vehicle collided with the object. If it was a big rock on the ground it would have damaged the whole underside

[MPR]

In this case it's believed a rock kicked up and hit the oil cooler, right OP?

[mblaucoupe135]

Originally Posted by Vivek.

Any flying object contacting your vehicle while you are driving should be classed under comprehensive. If it was on the ground, its collision.


Did you ever get a conclusion regarding whether or not you need a new engine?

Good to know!

The dealership is waiting for the oil cooler to come in. It should arrive tomorrow, but not sure if they will be able to install it then or if it will have to wait until next week.

[mblaucoupe135]

Originally Posted by MPR

In this case it's believed a rock kicked up and hit the oil cooler, right OP?

Yes that's right. To be honest I'm not actually sure what happened, but I was on a gravel road and as anyone knows who has driven on one of those, rocks and gravel are constantly getting kicked up under the car, in the wheel wells etc. I don't recall running over any big rocks as I'm always trying to look out for things like that, but there must have been one that hit it just right to punch a whole in the cooler.

[MPR]

Mesh templates done. Should have this project done by Sunday

[MPR]

oldbmwtech, do you have any pictures of the skid plate installed? I'm trying to account for spacing between the mesh mounting hardware and the oil cooler. Is it a snug fit where the oil cooler is pushed up against the skid plate when installed, or is there a few cm of space?

I need around 0.1" for the screw head and around the same for the fender washer, so 1/4"-ish total. Or ideally I'd like the lock nut towards the oil cooler so 0.3-0.4" would be ideal.

[oldbmwtech]

Originally Posted by MPR

oldbmwtech, do you have any pictures of the skid plate installed? I'm trying to account for spacing between the mesh mounting hardware and the oil cooler. Is it a snug fit where the oil cooler is pushed up against the skid plate when installed, or is there a few cm of space?

I need around 0.1" for the screw head and around the same for the fender washer, so 1/4"-ish total. Or ideally I'd like the lock nut towards the oil cooler so 0.3-0.4" would be ideal.

MPR mine was touching the oil cooler and making a rattle noise. That is why you need to add a washer or a few at the rear. This will give you space. Make sure the skid plate doesn't touch or it will rub a hole in the cooler.

[MPR]

Originally Posted by oldbmwtech

MPR mine was touching the oil cooler and making a rattle noise. That is why you need to add a washer or a few at the rear. This will give you space. Make sure the skid plate doesn't touch or it will rub a hole in the cooler.

How about towards the front?

[oldbmwtech]

Originally Posted by MPR

How about towards the front?

I didn't add washers toward the front for one I didn't need it and was a little worried that the screws wouldn't be long enough. That plate has some weight and thought the screws would come loose. When you install it you will see. Maybe you can figure out a better way to mount the front. I live in Houston and it is a bit hot right now to experiment.

[sclui56]

Originally Posted by oldbmwtech

I didn't add washers toward the front for one I didn't need it and was a little worried that the screws wouldn't be long enough. That plate has some weight and thought the screws would come loose. When you install it you will see. Maybe you can figure out a better way to mount the front. I live in Houston and it is a bit hot right now to experiment.

Took the plate out and had a look, too hot in SoCal to do anything other than trying to get the additional hardware when it's time to install. Got some heavy washers for the 2 back Turner braces, decided to shim between the braces and the underbelly instead of shimming between the braces and the plate itself, may just get 4 longer mounting bolts (M6-1.00x20).

Not much can be done with the front 4 points since there is nothing structural to mount to, these are simply tapping screws, (07-14-9-213-164), TS5x20 with 22mm washers, attached to U-clips.

[MPR]

Originally Posted by sclui56

Took the plate out and had a look, too hot in SoCal to do anything other than trying to get the additional hardware when it's time to install. Got some heavy washers for the 2 back Turner braces, decided to shim between the braces and the underbelly instead of shimming between the braces and the plate itself, may just get 4 longer mounting bolts (M6-1.00x20).

Not much can be done with the front 4 points since there is nothing structural to mount to, these are simply tapping screws, (07-14-9-213-164), TS5x20 with 22mm washers, attached to U-clips.

Is there a few mm of space between the cooler and plate? The screw heads are short and just a fender washer, so maybe 3-4mm