[marseille82]

Originally Posted by Artemis

But be happy you don't need to register this car in France where the environmental registration tax 'malus écologique' will be €50K in 2023 for the 6MT (CO2 of 226-230) and €40K-€45K for the ZF8 automatic (CO2 of 218-222). Or in The Netherlands where the 'BPM', 'registration tax, 'readying cost' ('kosten rijklaar maken') and 'recycling tax' is over €44K for the 6MT and almost €40K for the ZF8.
'Malus écologique' tariffs applicable in France for 2023: https://www.largus.fr/actualite-auto...-10982397.html
Considering VAT and environmental registration taxes charged in several European states, US forum members over here shouldn't complain too much about the price charged in the US for this car. Seen from a French or Dutch perspective, this car is a bargain in the US.

Mais ils sont fada ces Français. Good lord. I feel for them.

[MParallel]

Not too bad, but black hides all the little details like the diffuser et al.

Which in this case can be either good or bad.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by marseille82

Mais ils sont fada ces Français. Good lord. I feel for them.

I'd move

F that ‼️

[Tag]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

I'd move

F that ‼️

You'd probably get taxed to death for moving too!

[n8dgr84]

I think I know where they got the rear end inspiration

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by Golddog

For the 2 days I owned my M240i in BSM, I was a little disappointed in the color because it hid a lot of the lines of the car.

You owned one … for just 2 days?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by THEROK

E92 is the weakest M design ever. Slab sided, no hips to speak of. Don't cast aspersions on the G87 please.

I, too, felt the E9X was the weakest of the bunch despite owning three of them myself. Of all of the ///M's I've owned over the last 22 years, the E9X was my least favorite and the only one I never think about. Conversely, I have a huge affection for my E46 ///M3's - my favorite being my previous '05 Interlagos Blue ZCP ///M3 - and both of my F8X M4's.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by JustChris

You owned one … for just 2 days?

Traded it for something Gold

[THEROK]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I, too, felt the E9X was the weakest of the bunch despite owning three of them myself. Of all of the ///M's I've owned over the last 22 years, the E9X was my least favorite and the only one I never think about. Conversely, I have a huge affection for my E46 ///M3's - my favorite being my previous '05 Interlagos Blue ZCP ///M3 - and both of my F8X M4's.

I bought an '04 M3 new, added the Vorsteiner CSL aero kit, drove it 45K miles and thought it was the bee's knees design wise... until the F82 came long.

I wanted to like the E92 just like I wanted to like the G82, but both have such slab sided designs I just could never pony up the cash for either. Front ends are also not boxy.

All M3/4s should have a boxy design so the G87 shows promise. I'm looking forward to how the CS version looks in the flesh.

People like what they like. /end

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by THEROK

I bought an '04 M3 new, added the Vorsteiner CSL aero kit, drove it 45K miles and thought it was the bee's knees design wise... until the F82 came long.

I wanted to like the E92 just like I wanted to like the G82, but both have such slab sided designs I just could never pony up the cash for either. Front ends are also not boxy.

All M3/4s should have a boxy design so the G87 shows promise. I'm looking forward to how the CS version looks in the flesh.

People like what they like. /end

I had the OEM CSL CF interior door pieces and center console, all sourced from Crevier BMW. I loved my '05!!!




Here are some really shitty pictures of my first E46 ///M3, an '03 Phoenix Yellow/Imola Red combo.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Black is a part time job and so paint correction and PPF will make it far more livable

Yea but the upside is It is also easier to hide scratches and flaws with BSM.. The random metallic flakes in the paint blends in very well with touch-up paint or throwing some carbon fiber over the imperfection, in my experience.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Yea but the upside is It is also easier to hide scratches and flaws with BSM.. The random metallic flakes in the paint blends in very well with touch-up paint or throwing some carbon fiber over the imperfection, in my experience.

I don't have the best eyes, but I can easily see swirl in that black paint

You don't have to PPF the whole car, but putting a ceramic sealant on there I think is a must after doing paint correction

[10"]

Originally Posted by ROBM2C

^^^ I never compared the F87 to the e30 either .

None look like it lol

F87 has e46 vibes .

If anything the 1M had E46 vibes. I always thought the F87 was more 1st Gen M4 vibes!

but alas design perception is subjective!

[Golddog]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Traded it for something Gold

Actually, the day I picked up my M240i, three hours later I found out I won a 2023 C8 Corvette from a raffle ticket I purchased from the Corvette Museum. Would have liked to keep the M240, but didn’t need a 4th car.

[Ctothej]

Originally Posted by Golddog

Actually, the day I picked up my M240i, three hours later I found out I won a 2023 C8 Corvette from a raffle ticket I purchased from the Corvette Museum. Would have liked to keep the M240, but didn’t need a 4th car.

bloody hell mate... well done. wish I had that kind of luck.

[Golddog]

Originally Posted by Ctothej

bloody hell mate... well done. wish I had that kind of luck.

Still in absolute shock.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by Golddog

Actually, the day I picked up my M240i, three hours later I found out I won a 2023 C8 Corvette from a raffle ticket I purchased from the Corvette Museum. Would have liked to keep the M240, but didn't need a 4th car.

Congratulations 🎉

The kid at Subway today forgot to ring up my soda, so I guess we are both winners

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I had the OEM CSL CF interior door pieces and center console, all sourced from Crevier BMW. I loved my '05!!!
Here are some really shitty pictures of my first E46 ///M3, an '03 Phoenix Yellow/Imola Red combo.

Phoenix Yellow E46 M3 reminds me unfortunately of "MK Boy" (real name Simon Driscoll) of the BMW M3 community two decades ago. If my memory serves me well, late 2001 a driver entered his lane. He took evasive action with his Phoenix Yellow E46 M3 to avoid a head-on collision, swerved and fatally slammed into a lightpost. Simon and his girlfriend both perished. R.I.P.

Stay safe, folks.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by burnsniper

Looks like a:

Audi - headlights, no halos no BMW
Scion - front
Generic BMW - side, no vent/fake vent on side, no M car
Z4M - rear

I could possibly get behind the design if it didn't have Audi headlights.

So according to your standards this ain't no M car ?


BMW 2002 Hommage Concept (2016) (see for example here and here):


BMW Vision M Next (2019) (see for example here):

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Seeing BSM in real life with your own eyes, can make a difference: 'mean'/'cool' global impression - more details. Convinced that the G87 M2 in BSM will turn heads in a good way.

I'm currently not in the market for a 2023 G87 M2. But if that would be the case, I'd definitely opt for BSM (and my current car is BSM, so I know what it is to live with that hard-to-keep-clean color). Hypothetically speaking: if Mineral Grey would be made available at a later stage in the G87 M2 life-cycle, I would be in dubio between MG and BSM.

If I had a clean, fairly new Competition, I honestly wouldn't rush to the G87 either. The F87 still has a lot mainstay in the automotive market and all these cars have pretty much plateaued in perceivable performance and handling delta, unless you jump to something mid-engine or something with an exotic layout. The G87 is a good upgrade, when that sweet day arrives.

Did you share your opinion on the G87 yet? I'm in love with the specs and price but could take or leave the styling choices but it's not the end of the world..

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Did you share your opinion on the G87 yet? I'm in love with the specs and price but could take or leave the styling choices but it's not the end of the world..

Executive summary: here.

TL;DR: it is told that Emanuel Lasker (World Chess Champion for 27 years - 1894-1921) gave this small piece of chess advice:
"When you see a good move, look for a better one."

[KevM2]

It's a tough choice!! I think any car in black can look amazing however black does hide a lot of the features of any car as everyone has been saying. The F87 however, does look amazing in black but I think that has to do with how how amazing this car is designed. Have a feeling the G87 won't do as well in black. White I fear would be too bland and also hide its features. Brooklyn grey isn't dark enough for me and it's just not all that exciting of a colour. Zandvoort blue…. Absolutely not….. that leaves Toronto red…. I do like the red and it probably brings out the car's features better than all the rest… but I just don't like that it screams "middle age crisis"…. So BSM it is and wrapped in stealth to make the curves pop out…