[boostspoon]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

After 600 miles, I have zero complaints about how the M HAS came fitted from the factory. Car showed up dropped by 10mm and with a 3D report from the port install showing the ride height and alignment specifications. Ride is comfortable, 10mm drop is great, and wheel arches look just right. I personally enjoyed this experience a lot more than I would have if I had to wrangle parts and hire a third party shop.

May I ask how much it was adding to your build? Taking in consideration the alignment is included.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by boostspoon

May I ask how much it was adding to your build? Taking in consideration the alignment is included.

$2,880 all inclusive.

[fcman]

The BMW USA site lists 2 different suspension options, the Sports suspension and the Coilover kit. I’m assuming the MPHAS kit is the sports suspension?

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by fcman

The BMW USA site lists 2 different suspension options, the Sports suspension and the Coilover kit. I’m assuming the MPHAS kit is the sports suspension?

Yes, correct.

[VIERsr]

I talked to KW today and they confirmed this:

Hello,

Thanks for your request.

You`re right -- there is no HAS kit available for this car type at the moment . It could be that the M3/4 kits fits maybe in -- but this is not tested , you need other axle loads, and spring rates!!!

But, we are in the developing process for this product. There is no fix date, which I could send as info -- but there will be a HAS available for this car in the future.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards

So at this point I wonder why Bmw offers the same HAS for M2 and M3/4.

[Game]

Originally Posted by VIERsr

I talked to KW today and they confirmed this:



So at this point I wonder why Bmw offers the same HAS for M2 and M3/4.

Exactly why I’m waiting.

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by Game

I KNEW you’d appreciate that.

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by SebG87

Hey guys! H&R has finalized the development of the HAS for the G87 (ordinary springs will follow). I don’t see them on their website yet, but I bet they’ll be there soon. My workshop contacted them and has already placed the order 😎 going to install them on July 31.

On their Instagram they dropped some pics, looks spot on.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuW-a...RlODBiNWFlZA==

But what color will they be?

[Game]

Originally Posted by cmgbk75

I KNEW you’d appreciate that.

Hell yeah. That was my childhood. The golden era of the NBA.

[Game]

Originally Posted by M2siast

It was surprising only a handful got the reference.
AI was my hero. As a teenager I played ball and I always wanted to play like him. Especially because we were both 6-foot and 165 lbs.
Now I’m 185 and I bet he’s heavier hahahaha

He definitely hasn’t played ball in a WHILE but always happy to see him. Dude was unreal.

[SebG87]

Originally Posted by cmgbk75

But what color will they be?

They’ll be red. Attached the latest post on IG:

[KevM2]

Originally Posted by SebG87

They’ll be red. Attached the latest post on IG:

Definitely going with red, will add an extra 5hp easy

[SebG87]

Originally Posted by KevM2

Definitely going with red, will add an extra 5hp easy

Maybe 7 😂

[VIERsr]

If you can see the color of the springs, your car is not low enough

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by VIERsr

I talked to KW today and they confirmed this:
So at this point I wonder why Bmw offers the same HAS for M2 and M3/4.

Who do you trust more, KW or BMW? The chief platform and the suspension engineers would have had to clear the M HAS to be offered on the G87. Otherwise BMW wouldn’t be offering it as an option.

[VIERsr]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

Who do you trust more, KW or BMW? The chief platform and the suspension engineers would have had to clear the M HAS to be offered on the G87. Otherwise BMW wouldn’t be offering it as an option.

I believe in the difference between "can fit" and "specifically designed for".

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by VIERsr

I believe in the difference between "can fit" and "specifically designed for".

I believe in BMW engineers and having a warranty. Lol.

[Game]

To me, having the same part number makes no sense. Take a look at the rear stock height difference between a G80 and a G87. It's massive. The G80 rear barely needs to be dropped while the G87 needs multiple inches.

So while the kit can technically work with both cars, the spring rates aren't the same.

[Game]

Side note:

Talked to H&R and we should see their HAS kit available in 6-8 weeks now that they've finished testing and entering production shortly.

[SebG87]

Wow! So this looks amazing.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by Game

To me, having the same part number makes no sense. Take a look at the rear stock height difference between a G80 and a G87. It's massive. The G80 rear barely needs to be dropped while the G87 needs multiple inches.

So while the kit can technically work with both cars, the spring rates aren't the same.

Yet BMW specifically updated the documentation and TUV certification on the part for the G87. Why would they go through all that trouble for a part that “wasn’t designed” for the G87? Of course KW and H&R are going to tell you they’re developing parts for the G87. They want to sell you their product too. So who do you trust more, BMW or them?

[Game]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

Yet BMW specifically updated the documentation and TUV certification on the part for the G87. Why would they go through all that trouble for a part that “wasn’t designed” for the G87? Of course KW and H&R are going to tell you they’re developing parts for the G87. They want to sell you their product too. So who do you trust more, BMW or them?

Simple. Cost savings. Why would they want to make a one-off HAS kit for such a small niche car? They’ll save millions in R&D costs and production by lumping it in with the G80/G82 application.

BMW has cut so many corners lately that at this point I trust H&R and KW. Two giants in the suspension world will do their due diligence. If they come back and tell me it’s the same product, great, but I think they’ll come back with some tweaks.