[TheMaxXHD]

Originally Posted by RCtennis3811

It’ll be interesting to see what they say shortly. The BMW CES keynote is live in 20 min.

They need to be less cringe.

[kjx]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

LOL why? If I had a Porsche, I wouldn't want CarPlay UI anywhere near the instrument cluster. The infotainment would be the only place I would want these systems to be.

I worded it wrong. What I meant was if they were going down any one of those routes, I'd much rather it be Apple's implementation than Android. OEM is much better for overall integration. That said, though I rarely use it, the graphics in Apple Maps on Carplay is eons ahead of iDrive. And I can say things to Carplay like 'navigate to <friend's name>'s house' and I'm on my way. Instead of only being able to do that for known points of interest on iDrive.

[Powaup]

Wish I could update the idrive in my Supra to the newer one. I love how apple car play is integrated with the g20 cars

[Alpine Wait]

If you guys think this is bad, wait until you see BMW i Vision Dee.

[spaceage]

Originally Posted by s58

News broke at CES 2023 that iDrive 8.5 will arrive in the MY 2024 5 series, and iDrive 9 with a new X1 "in two months."

However, both iDrive 8.5 and iDrive 9 will look identical and have the same user interface. The only differences between the two will be functionality, as iDrive 8.5 will lack some of the features that are available on iDrive 9. For instance, iDrive 9 will get an app store, while iDrive 8.5 won’t."

Translation: as of MY2024 every BMW will have Android shitware built in.

Hard pass if it can’t be totally disabled/turned off/removed from car, which is highly unlikely. This is a disastrous decision by BMW.

[spaceage]

Originally Posted by TheMaxXHD

Apple is ironically the best with device support, often giving 5+ years in some cases of updates. The flipside is they are also the worst at walling latest features to new devices, even if older ones are capable of having the feature.

Nothing is more “walled off” than you can’t even install the next version of the OS, which is the Android world in a nutshell.

[Mastakko]

Originally Posted by Game

How's the X1 going to get iD9 in two months when it just released with iD8 a month ago?

Exactly my question, my sister just took delivery today with idrive 8.

[Mastakko]

Originally Posted by IB M

Going out on a limb here but large computer screens obscuring vision and distracting drivers don’t belong in cars - better to put the drivers eyes on the road and use more traditional tactile controls. An integrated nav screen below the dash is fine but not a huge screen sticking up and obscuring the windshield. Touch screens are the worst for distraction!! Basics. Every day has multiple accidents on my short 15 mile commute. It’s the law to buckle up but it is legal to have a 15” TV sceeen up high in the drivers face. Regulation at its best.

I couldn't agree with you more. Half the time I turn off the HUD in my car if I'm not using driving directions because it changes my focal point and I have to readjust after looking up. It becomes distracting.

[Tejas1836]

Well, BMW Dee certainly explains why BMW will not be adopting Apple CarPlay version 2023

[Tejas1836]

Originally Posted by Mastakko

I couldn't agree with you more. Half the time I turn off the HUD in my car if I'm not using driving directions because it takes changes my focal point and I have to readjust after looking up. It becomes distracting.

And Dee wants to put text messaging on the winshield

[skyboum]

So X1 is getting iDrive 9 in 2 months? I ordered my new x1 a week ago. Will that mean mine will get it or I will be getting an “old” car already? Sadly I cant cancel the order…🧑&zwj;🎄

[Mastakko]

Originally Posted by Tejas1836

And Dee wants to put text messaging on the windshield

You're joking? That won't fix anything. Can't people just call?

I told my wife after buying the 2019 Z4 I currently own that I'll never own a newer car than it because they just aren't 'cars' anymore

[SetAlias]

I think many on this forum don't realize that apple is only popular in the United States. Android holds over 70% marketshare globally, the iphone and iMessage infatuation is a US thing. Exchange students often have trouble because they use WhatsApp instead of iMessage and the iMessage lock-in causes issues for communicating in groups.

So it's not that android automotive (Google) won't be able to be used by iphone users seamlessly, it's that apple has a history of making their integrations difficult if not impossible for non iphone users, in order to keep business via lock-in. What if you had to own an iphone to use certain features with your car... that's stupid and anti-consumer.

https://www.thurrott.com/apple/24893...id%20handsets.


So if BMW went with the apple car system they'd likely be causing an issue for a very large number of their customers. They'd also be restricted to what apple says they can do instead of developing their own platform. Versus the Google system will be compatible and customizable as it always has been.

[sahajesh]

Originally Posted by BTC Maxi

Shouldn’t idrive9 release in 4 years whenever the current gen 3 series ends production?

Clearly not.

[RCtennis3811]

FWIW, iDrive 9 is just using Android Automotive OS (AAOS) as a basis for the next-gen infotainment system. It’ll still use Here HD maps and other BMW-specific apps. It’s different than going full-on Google like Volvo and Ford are doing where Google Assistant and Google Maps are present.

Saw this on Twitter earlier:

[RCtennis3811]

Also looked up Faurecia-Aptoide, which is an independent App Store for Android Automotive OS.

Looks like Mercedes-Benz is also using them in 2023 onward with MB.OS, the replacement for MBUX which TheBingoBalls mentioned earlier in this thread.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/f...le-2022-04-28/

[MJBO]

Originally Posted by LogicalApex

They keep advertising these as “iDrive X” and “BMW OS X” as if they share a universal feature set across models. For instance, iPhone OS 16 is the same OS on the iPhone X as it is on the iPhone 14 Pro. For BMW they have underlying “features” that are tied to the vehicles “Service Pack” which can limit features available...

Heh, actually Apple do it too. An iPhone X misses out on a list of iOS 16 features that newer devices get.

https://www.macworld.com/article/805...atibility.html

[ramparts]

So long as we can still use the standard CarPlay with it!

Also, the real reason x1 gets 9 and others 8.5 - rotary controller support! Bet your bottom dollar that they haven’t either done it / plan not to. As the x1 doesn’t have one, it can use it earlier

[dezzracer]

Give me the Jeep/Chrysler Uconnect interface system and I'll be happy. VERY happy.

[Jimjamz]

BMW needs to do what Apple does and separate major OS updates from the hardware. At this point anyone with a new iDrive8 car or one in the pipeline is going to feel they’re already on a redundant platform.

[G30M]

Need new software to max out the subscription $$ I see

[modat]

I hope safari is snappier