[Tallest]

YEAH, THAT FACE. I like it. PLease be done with iterations of 00s cars for 20 years. Im ready for smth to like again. Otherwise I keep thinking my Z4C and E90 were peak designs and everything else since is like just not much of an improvement and last 5 years is a full on deterioration.

[buckybadger]

German engineering is a little conservative. Give the engineers some time and they will outclass whatever is out there.

[Neusser]

Kill it with fire.

[10"]

“Fastest electric toaster ever”

At this point EVs are just goofy. These will never be drivers cars—just overproduced appliances supported by flashy statistics.

Wake me up when someone has produced a lightweight, simple EV that is actually engaging to drive. Don’t care about HP numbers. I am sure I will be waiting a long long time…

[M5ddox]

Originally Posted by heymarkv

My stock power F82 M4 is plenty quick in my opinion and gets up to going to jail speeds in a relatively quick manner.

I’d rather see ultra fast EV charging in minutes instead of hours compared to them saying “it has XXXX hp and does 0-60 in 0.2 seconds.”

Going to Jail speeds lol

[Blue Angel]

Originally Posted by LuisBoston

Second “Gas all the way”… Hope you don’t have or want kids.

(Oh, see you’re 16. You are the future. That’s even sadder).

Save your virtue signaling. Buying an EV isn’t going to save the planet.

[Blue Angel]

Originally Posted by eanto

LOL don’t worry i don’t 😂😂😂 but if my future wife does i’m screwed 😂

Don’t get too set on these decisions early in your life. Think hard about being alone when you’re old. You may change your mind.

[Blue Angel]

Originally Posted by Scrapula

My son is 19 and he is the one that got me interested in EVs. He is extremely angry at how people are destroying the planet. He doesn’t want kids either. Too many humans.

In two generations we are going to be suffering population collapse. Young people’s minds are being polluted with nonsense from people who hate humanity. That’s FAR more dangerous than anything that might be happening to the planet.

[Blue Angel]

Originally Posted by LuisBoston

I don’t need to assume anything, but I know one thing about you.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...ons-over-time/

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/el...eir-lifetimes/

https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/are-...s-powered-cars

Also, as the grid continues to get greener and battery tech improves, the gap between the CO2 footprint of EVs and ICE vehicles will grow even larger, in even more favor of EVs relative to today.

But go on.

I won’t argue any point you’re making… it’s the basis of your argument that’s false. You don’t need to worry about your carbon footprint, that’s a marketing term made up by the oil industry and latched onto by the green brigade.

Atmospheric carbon was so low prior to the Industrial Revolution it was close to threatening plant life (below a certain point photosynthesis becomes difficult). The earth is 20% greener now than it was in 2000, we haven’t had a significant destructive hurricane in a decade, and it’s actually colder now than it was 100 years ago.

There are tons of things we should be doing to clean up our environment. Ignoring those to focus on CO2 is ridiculous and only fosters money laundering and control while making our environment worse.

[Blue Angel]

Originally Posted by blockhead25

Oh god. You are one of those.

You are wrong. Dead wrong. Categorically wrong. You are referencing a 5 year old study by a group in the UK that had limited data, did none of their own research (they don’t even claim to do their own research), compiled groups of so called independent data and published without peer review.

You’ve sighted the NY Post that sighted the Wall Street journal that sighted a 3 year old study that was based on the foundation of a 5 year old study then you proceeded to combine the two studies showing you truly don’t have a clue what you are talking about.

There are reasonable discussions to be had about electricity impact on environment, battery production on environment and other factors. But you are categorically and factually wrong in claiming EV’s are hurting the environment more than they help. It is proveably a false statement. It goes beyond misinformation, it is a lie.

Science matters. Facts matter. Education matters. Research matters.

Educate yourself on the material you post then come back and play.

Conspiracy theory and lie #1: electric vehicles are destroying the earth even more

Reasonable alternative argument: just because EV’s don’t directly produce CO2 doesn’t mean they are currently a savior for the environment.

While it is provable that EV’s are currently better for emissions long term and likely to get even better in the future, there are environmental costs in production. Those should be discussed and evaluated. The more the world and the Us turns to renewable energy (currently at an all time high and [...]

Your reasonable alternatives are spot on.

[veenut28]

Looks cool but we don't need more 5000lb behemoths with 1000+ hp. Basically unusable (and dangerous) on the street and absurdly heavy for the track. I'd love to see BMW focus on weight reduction. No expectation to go back to the days of 3000 lbs, but just keeping it around 4000 would do wonders for the handling characteristics.

Also who is this for? Rich people who pretend to care about the environment but buy a car with a massive battery that requires a huge initial carbon hit in terms of mining and processing, and then sell the car a year later to buy the newest model?

[Hit_Apex]

BMW's approach is to solve for the appliance nature of big power current offerings. There is so much opportunity to design an engaging, intelligent driving experience than a potentiometer on massive electric power. Most of the comments are out of touch with what BMW is working on. Reading through the comments I was reminded of this article which is worth sharing again.
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...ev-drive-modes

[GOLFFRR]

lets see what shakes out and how long it takes to actually come out

[SexyRoger]

Originally Posted by NomoTesla

It's happening!

BMW Says First M Electric Sedan Will “Beat Everything You’ve Ever Seen”

According to BMW M's boss, the EV's quad-motor powertrain can deliver as much as 1,341 hp



https://www.carscoops.com/2024/06/bm...uve-ever-seen/

• The Neue Klasse-based model is being tested with four electric motors.
• This potent new EV should be the quickest-acceleration BMW ever.
• An 800-volt electrical architecture will underpin the model.

A few short years ago, the idea of an all-electric car from the BMW M brand sounded like sacrilege, but such a car is in the works, and based on statements made by the M division’s boss, it will be extraordinary.

BMW has been working on a powerful, quad-motor setup for quite some time and is expected to launch its first Neue Klasse-based performance sedan in 2026 or 2027. It will be sold alongside the combustion-powered M3 and M boss Frank van Meel has said the powertrain is good for as much as 1,341 hp (1,000 kW) or one Megawatt of power.

According to van Meel, the new EV “will beat everything you have ever seen.” To achieve such a lofty statement, BMW is developing its own electric motors and believes that like the S68 engine of the M5 and the S58 of the M3 and M4, its e-motors “will be a benchmark.”

Motor Trend anticipates the new electric performance sedan from the German brand will be the fastest accelerating car in its history, demolishing the 0-60 mph (0-96 km/h) sprint in less than 3 seconds. The e-motors could be water and oil-cooled, and an 800-volt electrical architecture will enable ultra-fast DC charging. Van Meel has also revealed that the batteries will have a different chemistry than those of other Neue Klasse models and that they will have an improved cooling system.

The use of electric motors won’t just allow BMW to chase monumental power figures. The automaker has engineered a system that can control the car’s chassis and precisely alter the torque at each wheel, improving the car’s dynamics and making BMW “feel like Alice in Wonderland,” according to van Meel. BMW’s M boss added it will have “neutral, linear, and predictable” handling.

BMW is also considering a two-motor performance EV that is sold exclusively with rear-wheel drive. This model would use similar hardware and software but have less grunt than the quad-motor version. A fully-fledged M version of the first Neue Klasse X SUV could also be a future addition to the firm’s EV family.

Note: This article contains renderings from Fully Leaded that are not related to nor endorsed by BMW.

Exciting news. I hope they don't limit this to a few units.

[gblansten]

This ridiculous chasing of HP is pointless. It’s not even remotely fun to have over 1000 hp on tap with immediate torque. I bet it gets old to accelerate like that after a few thousand times.

[DarkstarZero]

Tesla Plaids lost half their value in 2 years. I'm not going to buy an expensive EV new, it just doesn't make financial sense right now.

[xlover]

Originally Posted by clutchdj

I like the front end. clean no mess.

Pretty sure these are not official bmw images these are a 3rd party artist dream rendering

[03BeastCharmer]

Originally Posted by M3WC

I would like to see a BMW EV sports coupe...3,500lbs max, 400hp, RWD single motor, 300mile range. Not sure if current battery technology can even produce that. Cayman EV is coming, will be interesting to see the specs.

I don't see 3,500lb in any EV happening. ICE 2 series can't even do that. To have batteries for 300mile range you would have to have a carbon fiber monocoque and bare features to reach that target, and (most) people want all the creature comforts as something with those specs would be in the $90K+ range.

[Car-Addicted]

BMW hints at an EV with quad-motor powertrain that can deliver as much as 1,341 hp.
Meanwhile
Bugatti produces the Tourbillon, a 1,800 HP Hybrid Hypercar



Which one do you want? If you think you're saving the planet with either of these you're an idiot.

[thaalrasha]

no one cares about acceleration figures of an EV... It's pretty much limited by tires traction, every manufacturer including the Chinese can do this. What's interesting and what they should focus on is the weight and handling.

[M2 SoCal]

With a 300 mile range, but as soon as you step on the accelerator, it goes down to 100 mile range.

[PeterWT]

Originally Posted by NomoTesla

...BMW is also considering a two-motor performance EV that is sold exclusively with rear-wheel drive. This model would use similar hardware and software but have less grunt than the quad-motor version...

PLEASE!