[lethbridge]

The good news is it now can’t have the front end of an M4… That just never grew on me at all so I opted out - still happy with my F80 but it will need replacing due mileage… It will be interesting to see the finalised front end design as it will need the ICE to breath… and I can’t believe the rear will be as generic as initial speculation suggests… but then I remember thinking that they surely can’t do that to the front of the G80… but they did…

[TEGRITY]

Lowering springs to the rescue and rest seems pretty alright. Nothing glaring on the face like any of their recent M model designs. Rear end looks a bit like the older generation Subaru liberty but maybe just the camo.

Will it live up to M lineage of the past or start a new order, only time will tell.

[Quadruple VANOS]

Interested to learn how they’re going to design it so it doesn’t depreciate at 3x the rate of an ICE M3.

[Mr. Jonathan]

Originally Posted by f30dreamin

Guess I am never selling my manual G80 😎

Well if BMW is going this direction their market research could suggests there will be no one to sell your G80 too. That is unless BMW is wrong…?

What I don’t understand at the moment is how all the American manufacturers are pumping the brakes on EVs and German manufacturers are sending it.

Maybe has more to do with materials and supply chain vs EV market demand?

[Mr. Jonathan]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

I'm a driving enthusiast who can't wait to try one of these "catasrophies"

So I guess, it's no one plus one?

Think of how cheap it will be with the demand of one. I hope you enjoy the heck out of it.

[Mr. Jonathan]

Originally Posted by yousefnjr

Considering nobody’s driven one or knows any technical details/specs, what should we be focusing on here? We barely have an idea what it’ll look like

Doesn’t matter bro, EVs with an M badge are the devil!

[Mr. Jonathan]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

Best M3 of all time will be electric, once the weight issue is resolved - considering EVs will be lighter than ICE cars eventually - also much faster, with much better weight balance, and much better smoothness with way more control over the motors.

Those who're upset that there will be an electric M3 are the problem with the world. Their existence is bad for all of us - not just from protecting environment POV but also being close minded, against change and innovation.

Also, if BMW doesn't make an electric M, they have to kill the M brand.

WOW… quite the modern facist we we in this thread.

[ChrisM4]

Originally Posted by Erebor

This thread is a blast to read. The salty ICE "enthusiasts" claiming to know what all the ppl want and a true M car could never be EV, and the EV canucks trying to argue against it, as if that would remove there tinfoil hat.

Ulitmately, the future is neither pure ICE nor pure EV. The future is to have a choice on what suits best and choose accordingly.
For me personally, my next car won't be an ICE.

I’m pro whatever people want to drive. Let the market decide.

I’m not pro shoving EV regs down people’s throats and EV enthusiasts preaching people who prefer ICE cars are the problem. (They are not)

When manufacturers improve the technology, improve reliability, reduce weight, reduce end to end lifecycle cost/impact to the environment and put out a better overall product these things will sell themselves.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by jmg

Plug in Hybrids, to me at least, are the current best iteration of the modern transportation automobile (non-performance). The EV is the future, how far off into the future is the question. In the long run, it will cause less pollution simply because regulations won’t have to try and police every single EV on the road, but instead concentrate on energy resources and battery end-of-life procedures.

You must be a man of faith. I, however, have none. The proof is in the pudding, and it's a very dark pudding for EV's (all things considered).

[robopp]

Not a huge fan of full EV (I think Porsche is doing it right with the 992.2 GTS), but it piqued my interest so I randomly looked at used Audi RS etron GT’s. $170k new selling for $80k 1-2 years old used with 9k miles on them! 100k depreciation in two years! You’d be a complete moron to buy a new EV in this market including the new EV M3 when it comes out.

[ednir98]

Originally Posted by jmg

For now, it looks like the door handles are protruding. I hope this is not the final form, as I prefer the flush G87 handles.

I could be wrong but it looks like they retract to sit flush. Maybe they come out when you park/unlock the car? It would also reduce drag and wind noise so my guess is the final version will have retracting door handles.

[jmack123]

Originally Posted by King_jason109

This is really disappointing, an electric M car is sacrilegious. Get a grip BMW, no one wants this NEUE KLASSE crap, it’s super ugly. Just make classy cars.

You’re out of touch buddy.

[Chihuahua]

Looks good to me, proportions are right and like others I'm getting a retro E30 vibe from it. Looking forward to the production model.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by robopp

Not a huge fan of full EV (I think Porsche is doing it right with the 992.2 GTS), but it piqued my interest so I randomly looked at used Audi RS etron GT’s. $170k new selling for $80k 1-2 years old used with 9k miles on them! 100k depreciation in two years! You’d be a complete moron to buy a new EV in this market including the new EV M3 when it comes out.

Yeah, OK BMW M8 convertible 180k new, $80 used…🤣

[robopp]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Yeah, OK BMW M8 convertible 180k new, $80 used…🤣

Ok, show me one EV that holds its value after a couple of years.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by robopp

Ok, show me one EV that holds its value after a couple of years.

I just sold my 2021 Tesla Model 3 with 65k miles on it for $25k, and think that’s quite respectable considering.

EV’s are currently like iPhones on wheels, as the tech advances you’ll want the newest, latest, and greatest model.

But that will level out, until then it’s best to lease them. I leased my first 4 EV’s for that very reason, and picked up $30k ($7500x4) in free money in the process…

[hb]

Originally Posted by ednir98

I could be wrong but it looks like they retract to sit flush. Maybe they come out when you park/unlock the car? It would also reduce drag and wind noise so my guess is the final version will have retracting door handles.

you nailed it

[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by robopp

Ok, show me one EV that holds its value after a couple of years.

Rimac Nevera

[robopp]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

Rimac Nevera

‘Super car’ that weighs 5100lbs and can carry two people. 😂

Do you have resale data you can share?

[oz555]

Space between front wheel and door 💀

[hotrod182]

Originally Posted by Mr. Jonathan

Doesn’t matter bro, EVs with an M badge are the devil!

If performance is what counts, the EV will be more efficient, have instant torque, and be quicker/faster in 90% of people's daily driving needs. Honestly, it's nice having ICE vehicles around, because it is thoroughly entertaining hearing their engines screaming next to you as they fight to keep up with an EV. A 5000lb Taycan Turbo GT turns quicker Nurburgring times than any production BMW. You are kidding yourself if you think this isn't sufficient for your track needs. And then in straight line performance, the Taycan Turbo GT will leave any stock BMW.
Latest polls show 1% of EV owners actually want to go back to a gas car.

[Cortexiphan]

Originally Posted by hova00

As far as environmentally friendly that is a also a narrative pushed by the political agenda.

'Narrative pushed by political agenda' is your narrative.

Also, almost all new cars will be EVs in less than a couple of decades. Meanwhile, you can keep lying to yourself.