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I did order the G87 in ZF8. I'm sure I'll miss the manual, but looking forward for the better visibility and ergonomics of the G87. Completely agree with you G87, SS1LE, Cayman GTS, C8, F87CS, etc, all the cars being discussed here are awesome vehicles. I still think in terms of bang for the buck the G87 and SS1LE are top of the class. A ton of value for the $$$ if you want a good dual duty street/track car.
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Clearly their track doesn't reward horsepower if aero and 190 bhp only pulls 0.4 seconds from the lap time (SS vs ZL1). There probably isn't much accelerating on that track so you are right that it is all down to the corners. -Nick |
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Oh well, at least BMW has a real alternative. -Nick |
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05-27-2023, 08:23 PM | #114 |
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It is hard for some f87 owner to accept the reality that their is m2 available which is better than their m2. So to keep themself happy they pretend to hate new g87.
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05-27-2023, 10:26 PM | #116 | |
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I think you will find many G87 owners/potential owners are actually ex F87 owners. I for one am an F87 owner & one of the only cars I would currently consider updating it to is the G87 so am very interested in sensible owner feedback, reviews, new model release news etc. Go elsewhere if you wish to stir shit, no room for that type of behaviour here regardless of what you own !.
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05-28-2023, 03:22 AM | #120 | |
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The M2 on the other hand is far more focused & an ideal track car/club car (especially once modified), something I think neither the AMG or Audi perform very well. The only real alternative I see to a new M2 is a Cayman GTS & the P car is way more expensive here.
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If Thomas is reading this here is my F87C DCT on Cup2s (240), since I'm in the area he can use it and have at it...
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On the topic of F87 laptimes, you can’t forget Thomas owns an F87.
His laptimes with any F87 (OG, C or CS) are going to be quicker than with another car he doesn’t know well. Remember, by their own rules, each car is on track for 1 warm up lap, 3 hot laps, and 1 cool down lap. How many hot laps has he taken in the car he owns? It’s a known fact drivers need time to learn the cars/tracks. He’s mastered the F87. So anyone can say, for example, that an M2 CS would not have been quicker than the next car down, had the reviewer owned that car instead. |
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I owned an f87 (M2C manual). My friend got a g87 manual and I have driven it few times incl a track day. I traded in my M2C last year for a 911c2s manual. I feel f87 is simple, nimble and fun; I do have regrets for not keeping it and if I could go back in time I will keep it .
Saying that G87 is great in its own regard, it’s a more modern car and it’s able to put power down much more efficiently than F87. I remember once in my f87, I took a spirited turn and I was lucky I didn’t die, since then I have been very careful when I take turns in f87. With G87 torque release is much more efficient- it’s not giving you too much torque/power at lower gear/rpm that vehicle can’t handle. So it’s a more efficient power modern m car with more safe power release but lesser playfulness than F87. My thought is if you don’t have an M car and want one get the G87 now. It’s such a nice one and you won’t regret. But if you already have one, say an f87, then wait till new M2C comes (but not sure it will have MT ). |
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Put an auto and a manual version of the same car with the same tires and the same driver on the same day with the same track conditions and the auto will likely have a faster lap time.
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I've been cross shopping between the RS3 and G87 M2. I may be a minority but I actually like the looks of the M2 better. After owning 2 tuned S3s,( I know not the same as an RS3) The M2 style of performance is what I'm looking for. More exciting with soul. Also the auto makes more sense due to the gearing and quicker shifts.
So managed to get a #1 spot at 2 different dealers after selling my 981 Cayman S. Now just waiting on an allocation. However I think production is about to slow or stop for the 2024 models. Was hoping to have it for the Sumner but now looks like winter. Ugh. Toronto red with carbon roof and interior. Carbon ducktail spoiler and mirror caps. |
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