05-06-2022, 06:51 PM | #1453 | |
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I doubt BMW would bother to change the look or functionality of their previously sold cars for free like Tesla does but that's another problem I have with the current all-screen vehicles: just as easily as they can gain features by software update, they can also become more stupid over time. |
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05-06-2022, 08:44 PM | #1454 |
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05-07-2022, 03:50 AM | #1457 | |
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But the looks aren't what i'm worried about, its the ergonomics that worry me. The instruments and the centrally mounted screen are two different things that will be used in two different ways. It makes no sense to me, in my mind to tie their positions to one another. The ideal height for one is not the ideal height for the other. But they have to be at the same height now (unless you mount the screen diagonally...which also seems like a bad option.) |
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05-07-2022, 09:04 AM | #1458 |
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Not a fan of the ID8 screen and I'm not old. It's not so much the screen itself but as some others have said, it's the lack of integration. It just looks like BMW didn't bother engineering the dashboard to integrate the screen and just decided to tack it on as an afterthought. MB and many other companies have accomplished doing this with their dashboards and they look spectacular so why can't BMW do the same?
As silly as it might sound, this is giving me some pause on getting a G87 as soon as it comes out. I'm picking up my G42 M240 later this month and planning on holding onto to it while putting a deposit down on the 2023 G87 but having some doubts after seeing some pics. Hopefully it looks better but I'd rather have the G42 interior over the tacked on screen look |
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05-07-2022, 03:31 PM | #1460 |
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The car will have HUD making the screens pretty much irrelevant except for setup and camera views where the new design will be an improvement. How many hand wringing pages of mainly irrelevant screen design comments do we really need for a small M car where driving is the priority? I vastly prefer analog gauges but this much focus and anguish on it to a degree that it’s a show stopper for some? I don’t get it.
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05-07-2022, 05:49 PM | #1464 | |
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05-07-2022, 11:07 PM | #1468 | |||
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What you might not realized about iDrive 8 is doesn't just use the flaky voice command system of the past, it is now much smarter and intuitive thanks to developments in artificial intelligence technology and use of an active internet cloud-based program to progress commands, rending buttons redundant. Think Siri or Google Assistance level of accuracy speech recognition, where the software filters through the sounds you speak and translates them into a format it can "read." Then, it analyzes that "translation" for meaning and uses that information — along with its algorithm and previous inputs — to guess what you said, significantly improve its functionality. Google's own voice recognition software attained a level of 95% recognition accuracy, I'm sure BMW is not far behind. The physical buttons that are being replaced by AI are much more efficient and accurate, allowing for a easier and safer hands-free driving experience, without much clutter. You want to turn on the heat? "[COLOR="DarkRed"]Hey BMW, set the driver's temperature to 70 degrees[/COLOR]." Want to put the car in sports mode? "[COLOR="DarkRed"]Hey BMW, I'm ready for some fun[/COLOR]" Was that so hard? Did the sky fall? No, the same command was achieved. The issues here is just that technologically progress just doesn't aligned with some folks narrow view. I'm not saying BMW is not saving money in the development process when scaled down over many different models but it is also more efficient IMHO. And also, comparing a video game controller or a steering wheel to a vehicle's feature operational button command that I might use once a week is a false equivalent; even though there are millions of touch-screen dedicated games out there phone and cars now have Level 3 Self-Driving capabilities which requires limited steering input and also, don't some of you guys swear that paddle shifters are the same or even a better experience than a bonafide manual gear lever? You guys should be happy then if it eventually becomes a touch sensitive gear controller; less work right? Video games are almost a contact sport, part of the experience is the tactile feed and pressure sensitivity from the controls. Certainly doesn't require the same level or emotional haptic feedback as changing the song on my radio. Voice commands can achieve this with little fuss. I could write a thesis on the subject but we'll just leave it here because I'm tired of typing on my phone screen. I sure do wish it had physical button instead, however did we get to this point.. 😗 |
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05-08-2022, 01:52 AM | #1470 | ||
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Unless it's officially stated on some documentation or someone with verifiable credentials confirms it as fact, I say it could go either way. |
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I saw it, it's regurgitating the same unverifiable information you had previously posted with nothing to back it up. Honestly, I have absolutely nothing against the source and have no reason to doubt him but the fact is there isn't anything to back those claims other than speculation. Maybe just a morsel of actually evidence would change my tune. It's not that seriously to me but I have a suspicion that M2 and M2 Competition will follow the same formula as the M4 & M4C where they will both be released concurrently, where the M2 base will be manual only and the M2C be offered as an automatic, with an onslaught of carbon fiber bits and that silly wing. |
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But I absolutely hope you're right. Well, not completely. I want to see a comp manual but I guess only time will tell. |
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