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      03-04-2023, 07:51 PM   #1453
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And the people constantly living in fear of EVs is equally entertaining.
Question. I would really appreciate an honest answer. Why is it that people from your way of thinking always use the word “fear” or a derivative of that word when describing THE reason people have different or even opposite beliefs than yourselves?
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Question. I would really appreciate an honest answer. Why is it that people from your way of thinking always use the word “fear” or a derivative of that word when describing THE reason people have different or even opposite beliefs than yourselves?
The constant posts with the same subject? The constant desperate attempts to discredit them? Fear of the new/unknown is natural.
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      03-04-2023, 08:19 PM   #1455
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The constant posts with the same subject? The constant desperate attempts to discredit them? Fear of the new/unknown is natural.
You did not answer my question. All you did was reaffirm what I said.
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Question. I would really appreciate an honest answer. Why is it that people from your way of thinking always use the word “fear” or a derivative of that word when describing THE reason people have different or even opposite beliefs than yourselves?
Because terms like "legitimate concern" or "reasoned conclusion" Sound too much like a measured approach and/or rational thought process.

It's a derivative of gaslighting : to make the other persons approach appear flawed or emotion based, even though the facts used are factually true.

It would seem inferior if I said "I was fearful the results of my test", rather than "I expect the test results will prove I have cancer". Why use logic when emotion can be needlessly added to a debatable subject with truthful elements?
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      03-04-2023, 08:57 PM   #1457
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That's what I was thinking and why I added in brakes for the Accord.
As far as I know you might never need to replace brakes if you use regen......thats what I read. I drove EV6 and I remember regen worked pretty good. You can come to complete stop without even using brakes
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As far as I know you might never need to replace brakes if you use regen......thats what I read. I drove EV6 and I remember regen worked pretty good. You can come to complete stop without even using brakes
I got 150K on the brakes of my last Hybrid car, and the rears were still about 40% at that point.

Tires and shocks wear out faster though, carrying all that extra weigh with you for every mile you drive. Shocks were truly done by 80K, and tires were about 65% of the life span compared to similar vehicle it replaced tha ran the exact same tires.
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Since 2013, I've been trying to find the financial payoff that justifies switching to EV and lose some usability of the transportation device that best fits my use case.
And that's fine. It's never going to make sense to buy a new car unless you are going to downsize to a cheap econobox and even then probably not if it's new. That's just reality. But the other reality is that people are going to buy new cars, just to have something new, to get new tech, etc. No, it's not going to fit every case.

Speaking to the poster above, it's the constant posts about the lithium mines, turning a blind eye to all the destruction and effect of drilling oil out of the ground and ocean. I remember plain as day that someone was posting a green field saying that it was tar-sands. No, go look on google earth in Canada in Alberta. That post was blatantly misrepresenting the issue, just reposting some meme they found on facebook or something. The ones constantly saying they can't be used in the cold. Then there are the people that constantly claim that the EVs can't be "fun" vehicles...meanwhile certain ones consistently do well in AutoX and a few other races. Same thing with a lot of the clinging to hydrogen. It might be a source for certain things in the future, but it's wildly impractical for most personal/auto transportation. It's this and more, all the crazy attempts to try and discredit it. Hey, you got actual information, sure, post it, but it's clear that most are just re-posting some facebook meme or new story they read on a site with an agenda. I'm not afraid of it. I have two ICE cars that I like and an EV may work for one of my uses, but I'm in no hurry.

All the constant bashing gets tiring though. It's like certain people are desperate to try and disprove this technology that is here and now...and only going to get better.

Every week or every few days, someone is posting a new "the sky is falling!" post about EVs.
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The constant posts with the same subject? The constant desperate attempts to discredit them? Fear of the new/unknown is natural.

It is fear.

They post in these discussions because they know they will gather many with the same mindset and it helps give themselves false reassurance that everything will be A-OK!

That one morning they'll wake up, turn on the interwebzzzz and hope to see the news stating that ICE cars are back. EV's are being pushed back to 2050 or 2060 etc.

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It is fear.

They post in these discussions because they know they will gather many with the same mindset and it helps give themselves false reassurance that everything will be A-OK!

That one morning they'll wake up, turn on the interwebzzzz and hope to see the news stating that ICE cars are back. EV's are being pushed back to 2050 or 2060 etc.

2035 i love you!
I must be a member of no less than 10 forums as of today. Over the last 20 years, probably 15. I am heavily active on five. I want you to know that you are by far the most active, engaging, thought out and consistent troll I’ve ever seen in any of them. In fact, second place to you as a distant second place. I think what sets you so far part is I can tell you really enjoy trolling. Take this last post I’m responding to for example. There’s no doubt in my mind you know what you wrote is total BS but you also know it will tweak at least three or four people on this thread and they will come back and argue with you on it. I’m not going to take the bait, because I know it’s a troll comment. I just wanted to point out that I finally fully understand what you are.
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      03-05-2023, 09:05 AM   #1463
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You just proved my point that this is aggravating you the most lmao

It’s ok bud. We’ll all be buddies when we’re driving awesome ev’s in the future.
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You just proved my point that this is aggravating you the most lmao

It’s ok bud. We’ll all be buddies when we’re driving awesome ev’s in the future.
And you just proved his point that you know you aggravate multiple members here knowingly and willingly, and that you do it for fun.
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      03-05-2023, 10:47 AM   #1465
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And you just proved his point that you know you aggravate multiple members here knowingly and willingly, and that you do it for fun.
Kinda not really.

Is it trolling when you guys do it purposely because you know the few pro ev guys will be reading? It’s clear as day. But im not quoting every single one of you, that would be the aggravation he was talking about.

But when I say something pro ev, he’s on it on every post lol. That’s all I’m saying.

Honestly I don’t even care if it is 2035 or 2040 or 2050. Just know it’s coming and there’s nothing you guys can do about it. I just like saying 2035 because that’s the original plan.


So yeah 2035 here we come!
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Kinda not really.

Is it trolling when you guys do it purposely because you know the few pro ev guys will be reading? It’s clear as day. But im not quoting every single one of you, that would be the aggravation he was talking about.

But when I say something pro ev, he’s on it on every post lol. That’s all I’m saying.

Honestly I don’t even care if it is 2035 or 2040 or 2050. Just know it’s coming and there’s nothing you guys can do about it. I just like saying 2035 because that’s the original plan.


So yeah 2035 here we come!
Trolls do it for fun.

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      03-05-2023, 12:07 PM   #1467
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Still disagree but yeah lol
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Kinda not really.

Is it trolling when you guys do it purposely because you know the few pro ev guys will be reading? It’s clear as day. But im not quoting every single one of you, that would be the aggravation he was talking about.

But when I say something pro ev, he’s on it on every post lol. That’s all I’m saying.

Honestly I don’t even care if it is 2035 or 2040 or 2050. Just know it’s coming and there’s nothing you guys can do about it. I just like saying 2035 because that’s the original plan.


So yeah 2035 here we come!
All's well that ends well eh BGM, bye bye EV by 2035
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And you just proved his point that you know you aggravate multiple members here knowingly and willingly, and that you do it for fun.
He is the first user I've ever set to ignore in 20 years of using online forums.
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He is the first user I've ever set to ignore in 20 years of using online forums.
Good. Less whining. Please others do the same! Lmao
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