[Rafichicago]

Originally Posted by akkando

The m3 touring smokes the rs6 in the wet, and it's a class below.

Weight difference and famously underrated Bmw horsepower. Not surprising at all. Class of the vehicle doesn’t matter. Power to weight ratio does.

[Car-Addicted]

Odd how BMW seems to omit pictures of the front end. Me thinks they are a little gun shy or should I say G shy?

[erickonphoenix]

I'm really excited to see them make it but the wagon life is about to sunset for me as I can no longer afford any of the new premium wagon models. These are officially "niche" only cars here so they're over powered, over loaded and over priced.

1. Great handling
2. Practicality
3. Roof mounting bikes
4. Decent gas mileage
5. Can self service most maintenance items.

Just a simple entry level sport wagon was the Goldilocks car for me.

[FSHNGRY]

I have grown a whole new respect for wagons ever since the RS6 Avant hit the road. There is one in my area that is british racing green, and some beautiful CCB's. Stance make it look SO tough.

The G99 is going to be exciting to see when it first comes out. I'm REALLY interested.

I would strongly consider this BUT only if it is my second car. I know it's purpose is an "all in one" but something 2 doors (992) and NOT station wagon to break up the daily wagon driving would be the only way I could really stomach it. I'm sure it's going to be beautiful, but I can imagine having a station wagon could get old.

My Prediction: I def see this starting around $145-150k and probably being discontinued after this generation so could be "rare" in the long run?

[jphcbpa]

Originally Posted by FSHNGRY

I have grown a whole new respect for wagons ever since the RS6 Avant hit the road. There is one in my area that is british racing green, and some beautiful CCB's. Stance make it look SO tough.

The G99 is going to be exciting to see when it first comes out. I'm REALLY interested.

I would strongly consider this BUT only if it is my second car. I know it's purpose is an "all in one" but something 2 doors (992) and NOT station wagon to break up the daily wagon driving would be the only way I could really stomach it. I'm sure it's going to be beautiful, but I can imagine having a station wagon could get old.

My Prediction: I def see this starting around $145-150k and probably being discontinued after this generation so could be "rare" in the long run?

Hoping for the $125K range +

[turbo666]

This is the ultimate Dad car. I’m looking forward to owning one.

[EM5C]

I like. I’m in.

[PostModernHero]

Originally Posted by Llarry

This is a controversial topic: It seems like half of us drool over wagons and the other half don't get it. Count me among the droolers, although the price looks to be way too steep for me. It looks like my Porsche Macan is safe in the garage for the foreseeable future.

Yeah... I just don't get the half that don't get it. Outdated thinking AF when all soccer moms drive these days are SUVs. They don't and WON'T drive an M5 Wagon...

[10"]

Originally Posted by PostModernHero

Yeah... I just don't get the half that don't get it. Outdated thinking AF when all soccer moms drive these days are SUVs. They don't and WON'T drive an M5 Wagon...

Yep.

SUVs are the ONLY soccer mom cars now. 🤮

[Rafichicago]

Yeah. I am trying to understand the idea of sitting higher up seeing more from an SUV while most of the cars on the road are SUVs in which everyone is sitting higher to see more from comfort standpoint I get it. Easier to get in and out. More room in the big ones not sure if better for city driving when parking is increasingly harder to find or have to be paid for still have to look for potholes with those 22s looks is subjective so I will leave that, minivans have much more usability for people with small kids but have a profile of an iron. They also wiek better for those who have families and can only have one vehicle. Oh well sign of times I guess and it all started from RAV 4

[MR_M2]

Originally Posted by akkando

It will be exactly the same as a daily. You don't gain any practicality in an m550 over an m5, other than cost.

I am assuming M550 rides a bit softer than the full blown M5C? That, to me, is a much better daily in a wagon form.

[jphcbpa]

hope they offer a true full leather option (leather on the lower panels of doors for example)

[Llarry]

Originally Posted by jphcbpa

hope they offer a true full leather option (leather on the lower panels of doors for example)

With the whole BMW line, leather on the lower panels of the doors is going to be a BMW Individual Manufaktur option at great cost. Full leather would include door tops and the central portion, but the lower portion (storage bins) would still be plastic, I predict.

It would be great if they offered a "full leather plus" option with center console, sun visors, lower doors, etc., in leather.

[jphcbpa]

Originally Posted by Llarry

With the whole BMW line, leather on the lower panels of the doors is going to be a BMW Individual Manufaktur option at great cost. Full leather would include door tops and the central portion, but the lower portion (storage bins) would still be plastic, I predict.

It would be great if they offered a "full leather plus" option with center console, sun visors, lower doors, etc., in leather.

should be offered if you can get it on an x5m and x7 IMO

[akkando]

Originally Posted by MR_M2

I am assuming M550 rides a bit softer than the full blown M5C? That, to me, is a much better daily in a wagon form.

An m5 isn't uncomfortable. I don't think it's right to say anything that rides more comfortable than the next car is more practical for a daily. How much more practical is the softest riding vehicle than the second most softest riding vehicle? I would argue it doesn't matter. If you're comfortable in a vehicle, I don't think a vehicle that rides softer is more practical. If I'm not uncomfortable, why do I need softer ride? We don't throw out every comfortable chair in the house and replace it with the most comfortable chair we can afford because it's more practical.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by Rafichicago

Weight difference and famously underrated Bmw horsepower. Not surprising at all. Class of the vehicle doesn’t matter. Power to weight ratio does.

I mentioned class of vehicle because I assume the next m5 will be faster than the m3, thus the next m5 should also be faster than the rs6 in the wet.

[Rafichicago]

Originally Posted by akkando

I mentioned class of vehicle because I assume the next m5 will be faster than the m3, thus the next m5 should also be faster than the rs6 in the wet.

I also assume that with hybrid power train it’ll be closer to 5500 lbs thus not necessarily faster.

[Rafichicago]

Originally Posted by akkando

An m5 isn't uncomfortable. I don't think it's right to say anything that rides more comfortable than the next car is more practical for a daily. How much more practical is the softest riding vehicle than the second most softest riding vehicle? I would argue it doesn't matter. If you're comfortable in a vehicle, I don't think a vehicle that rides softer is more practical. If I'm not uncomfortable, why do I need softer ride? We don't throw out every comfortable chair in the house and replace it with the most comfortable chair we can afford because it's more practical.

M5 isn’t uncomfortable. But m550 is more comfortable than M5 and that’s a fact.

[ppointer]

Originally Posted by Rafichicago

I believe we will get regular 5 series wagon. Homologation process is way too costly for them to justify paying for that and only sell a few hundred cars.

That completely makes sense and is what I am hoping for. My local dealer has been unable to confirm the G61 540 will make it, but he is not ruling it out the way he ruled out the M3 touring.

The only version of a G61 I refuse to buy is one with a 4-cylinder. Just like the F31, though the F31 had other "features" that would have been frustrating to live with.

[jphcbpa]

Originally Posted by ppointer

That completely makes sense and is what I am hoping for. My local dealer has been unable to confirm the G61 540 will make it, but he is not ruling it out the way he ruled out the M3 touring.

The only version of a G61 I refuse to buy is one with a 4-cylinder. Just like the F31, though the F31 had other "features" that would have been frustrating to live with.

G61 is not for the US market per the future models thread. G90 and G99 touring only.

[MR_M2]

Originally Posted by akkando

If I'm not uncomfortable, why do I need softer ride?

Kids. That changes the perspective.
I’m at a point in life where I prioritize family comfort over some Nurburgring lap times and Mlite models do just fine.
I’m crossing shopping X7M60i and E63s wagon. This M5 wagon would be a good mix to add if it doesn’t ride like an arse.

[TJS///M3]

I think this will define the words: "Attack Wagon"