[MineralGreyMetallic]

Originally Posted by mh4k

I had my wheels ceramic coated and really don’t have any issues with the amount of dust produced. Just pressure wash them clean each wash and hit them with fallout remover once a month or so and they come up like new every time.

You really came into a thread about swapping brake pads to tell us about ceramic coating.

Come on, man.

[mh4k]

Originally Posted by MineralGreyMetallic

You really came into a thread about swapping brake pads to tell us about ceramic coating.

Come on, man.

Yes. Brake dust isn’t a defect. Just clean the wheels.

[BroDoze]

Originally Posted by MineralGreyMetallic

I've been reading around other forums and the consensus seems to be something like

Little to NO DUST (90-95% LESS DUST) + 90% bite of OEM = IS1500
Reduced dust (70-80% LESS DUST) + same bite as OEM = IS2000

Also reading you should not track either of these pads as they "glaze" quickly.

I'm not installing my iSweep Pads until my new wheels come, so I think I'm going to swap the 1500's I have waiting for some 2000's. I really desire the initial bite of the stock pads.

Based on that ^^ I'd have to go with the 2000s.

[Digitalprty]

The rear Isweep 1500 pads do not have shims, like the stock ones do. Are they supposed to be installed without them?

[ScottyRyan2019]

New 1500s installed. Took a spirited at times cruise today with a large group of people. Total mileage from leaving house to return approx 150 miles. Brakes performed well. No difference in street driving from what I could tell. Without a doubt MUCH less brake dust and super easy to clean off the wheels. I give them ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

Originally Posted by BroDoze

So you’re saying the 2000s have MORE initial bite than stock? How do you know they have more bite than the 2000s? Have you owned / tried both?

Yes, but based solely off of feedback from what other 1500 pad owners have said compared to the stock pads. The 2000 units are much closer to stock pads, hence the initial bite is more in line with them. The 1500 is a very low dust pad. But as we know that comes as a sacrifice to overall stopping power / brake torque.

[DSTR]

Originally Posted by MineralGreyMetallic

You really came into a thread about swapping brake pads to tell us about ceramic coating.

Come on, man.

Well people bitching about brake dust are buying brake pads to mitigate lol. Other posts have the word ceramic. The gent you flamed did nothing wrong by mentioning a way to offset brake dust as the ENTIRE thread is obsessive about BRAKE DUST LOL!

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by DSTR

Well people bitching about brake dust are buying brake pads to mitigate lol. Other posts have the word ceramic. The gent you flamed did nothing wrong by mentioning a way to offset brake dust as the ENTIRE thread is obsessive about BRAKE DUST LOL!

Spot on.
As mentioned previously, my car is ceramic coated (including wheels/calipers) along with a 1500 pad switch and it’s made cleaning exponentially easier. No regrets on either decision.
YMMV

[AZG87]

Originally Posted by DSTR

Well people bitching about brake dust are buying brake pads to mitigate lol. Other posts have the word ceramic. The gent you flamed did nothing wrong by mentioning a way to offset brake dust as the ENTIRE thread is obsessive about BRAKE DUST LOL!

I would add ceramic coating doesn't do much in prevention but makes a big difference in ease of cleaning. That's why I do my oem and after market wheels typically, even before I experienced first hand the dust on the g87.

[AZG87]

Originally Posted by Carefree

Spot on.
As mentioned previously, my car is ceramic coated (including wheels/calipers) along with a 1500 pad switch and it’s made cleaning exponentially easier. No regrets on either decision.
YMMV

You got the best of both worlds here. Pad swap for reducing brake dust, ceramic coating for ease of cleaning. 😁

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

The 1500 is a very low dust pad. But as we know that comes as a sacrifice to overall stopping power / brake torque.

The 1500s stop as well as the stock pads. There is no noticeable difference at all under any typical stopping situation including slamming on the brakes at 85 mph to avoid a jackass in a redneck pickup truck who was road raging, cut me off, and slammed on his brakes.

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

The 1500s stop as well as the stock pads. There is no noticeable difference at all under any typical stopping situation including slamming on the brakes at 85 mph to avoid a jackass in a redneck pickup truck who was road raging, cut me off, and slammed on his brakes.

I'm sure they do their job well when warm. Many have noted that the initial break pedal tip in feel when cold & those living in extremely cold parts of the world see a slight drop in initial bite when cold. That's all.

[GregW / Oregon]

Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

I'm sure they do their job well when warm. Many have noted that the initial break pedal tip in feel when cold & those living in extremely cold parts of the world see a slight drop in initial bite when cold. That's all.

My impression is the initial bite is equal to stock, at least down to the low 40s.

[BroDoze]

We've heard of many cases (here) of the 1500s being inferior to stock on initial bite. That, to me, tells me even though a few say they're the same, they're probably not.

[Jaguar]

Originally Posted by BroDoze

We've heard of many cases (here) of the 1500s being inferior to stock on initial bite. That, to me, tells me even though a few say they're the same, they're probably not.

Here’s another person saying the bite feels the same as stock on the 1500’s. I’ve had two G82’s, an X4M comp, and now the M2, all with stock pads up until now, so very familiar how the stock pads feel from years of driving with them.

I can also say that I’m nearly convinced the 1500’s don’t generate ANY brake dust. It’s so minimal I almost believe the dust on the wheels is just normal road dust

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by BroDoze

We've heard of many cases (here) of the 1500s being inferior to stock on initial bite. That, to me, tells me even though a few say they're the same, they're probably not.

Really?
Please list all the “many” cases here in which posters claim an inferior bite. Verify with user names.
Your turn……….

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by Carefree

Really?
Please list all the “many” cases here in which posters claim an inferior bite. Verify with user names.
Your turn……….

^^^ I've not seen one person say their performance is inferior to stock, let alone "many". I have combined 20k miles on iSweep 1500 pads on my M2 & my wife's X3MC. They're as good as stock, period.

[chris719]

I'm not gonna say there is a big difference because I have not tried them... but I've run dozens of brake pads over the years on BMWs and other cars and there is simply no way that IS1500 can have initial bite in cold or rain etc like OEM pads. They are dusty for a reason. This isn't a negative necessarily because stock BMW brakes have too much bite IMO, but there is no way a low dust formulation can have OE level initial bite.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by chris719

I'm not gonna say there is a big difference because I have not tried them... but I've run dozens of brake pads over the years on BMWs and other cars and there is simply no way that IS1500 can have initial bite in cold or rain etc like OEM pads. They are dusty for a reason. This isn't a negative necessarily because stock BMW brakes have too much bite IMO, but there is no way a low dust formulation can have OE level initial bite.

No offense, the bold negates the rest of your statement. I, too, have run all sorts of brake pads on various vehicles (over 40 vehicles), and my experience actually having these pads on this car for over 8k miles, and a '22 X3MC for over 10k mi, is opposite of your opinion. For normal & spirited driving, unless everyone here is an experienced racer, nobody is going to notice any difference in performance.

[DarkNight707]

I just ordered the IS2000. Will report back after the install.

Any recommended places in Los Angeles?

[Jaguar]

Originally Posted by DarkNight707

I just ordered the IS2000. Will report back after the install.

Any recommended places in Los Angeles?

European Auto Source in Anaheim

[chris719]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

No offense, the bold negates the rest of your statement. I, too, have run all sorts of brake pads on various vehicles (over 40 vehicles), and my experience actually having these pads on this car for over 8k miles, and a '22 X3MC for over 10k mi, is opposite of your opinion. For normal & spirited driving, unless everyone here is an experienced racer, nobody is going to notice any difference in performance.

Physics disagrees with you. No low dust pad has cold mu higher than an OEM BMW pad I’ve ever seen. Again, not saying it's bad. There's a reason Euro pads have been dusty for 40 years, it's not just because BMW/Brembo hate you.