[Joker96]

Originally Posted by M2siast

It’s time you realize a BMW isn’t the car for you. Buy the more expensive Hyundai with more features.

You simply don’t understand and want what BMW offers, and that’s ok. Plenty of other brands and cars.

Coming here to bitch does nothing for you, for us, or for BMW. All we have to do is either ignore you or scroll through your rants while trying to find meaningful discourse.

Okay

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by m2not1LE

That looks AWFUL in comparison to the cognac that's apparently being dropped for the 2025 M2.

There is zero confirmation that there will not be a replacement for cognac so hang tight

Anything is possible up until the lunch of the new model year, which might actually be the LCI

[Joker96]

Originally Posted by yousefnjr

There is some history with this model you may not be aware of. Back in 2010 or so the M2 did not exist, and the smallest M car you could buy was the V8 M3. The M boss at the time saw the opportunity, and between customer demand for a smaller & cheaper M car and the existing 1 series, the 1M Coupe was born. If I remember correctly it was only offered in 3 colors (black, white, and orange) and 2 interiors (both black with either blue or orange stitching). It didn’t get an “M engine” and borrowed the turbo 6 from the 35is range. It did get a wider track, suspension bits, brakes, etc from the M3, along with a required 6-speed manual. The intent was to have an entry level M model that could be fun while still being affordable.


The first M2 kept that idea going, initially with a non-M engine as well, and received more options and better hardware as the years went on. The latest M2 is the best equipped model in this lineage to date. It does still have its roots in the parts bin, which is honestly a good thing since the parts in that bin are pretty darn good. You can’t get any color you want, and you don’t get some of the goodies from other models. You do pay less though.

No 360 camera is admittedly whack but it is what it is

I see, thanks for explaining

[m2not1LE]

Wow, those seats look terrible in comparison to cognac that's apparently being "replaced" by something close to this.

Originally Posted by Pickle of the Turk

Here's what the red highlight on M seats look on the 4er from the German configurator:



Note the small red strips in the blurred G87 photo from Tag and how the 4er has it as the underside of the door handle - by the looks of it, M2 will get black door cards all around (the red dots look to be for the red in the seat bases).

Hard to pick out if the sides of the armrest in the scrambled photo. I asked GPT to unscramble it and it is nothing like the M2

[robopp]

Originally Posted by JK479

Was that the Audi color? I know Lizard Green but is python Audi?

The 992 had a non-PTS paint color called Python Green for a ‘reasonable’ price of $3250. Similar to Chalk, Shark Blue, and Ruby.

[Joker96]

Originally Posted by Carefree

Why not have a piece of cheese with your whine?

That sounds good

[Joker96]

Originally Posted by two_three_two

reference post #104 and for the love of god stop complaining about really basic shit that has been rehashed a billion times here. yes you can get a carbon roof and seats. no there is no xdrive yet. etc.

Read the comment again, I explained the things they could remove to make the cars different that a reasonable exclusions..not things that I wanted to see.

[LAnderson23]

I originally had the cognac interior on my order, I thought it looked great on the configurator. Then I saw some other cars with the cognac interior at the dealer and I really didn't care for it in person. I generally have stayed away from black interiors just because they seem 'boring' and most cars have black interiors but it was that or the cognac so I went with the black with blue highlighted stitching.

[murderspice]

Originally Posted by M2siast

It’s time you realize a BMW isn’t the car for you. Buy the more expensive Hyundai with more features.

You simply don’t understand and want what BMW offers, and that’s ok. Plenty of other brands and cars.

Coming here to bitch does nothing for you, for us, or for BMW. All we have to do is either ignore you or scroll through your rants while trying to find meaningful discourse.

“The worst thing about the g87 are its owners.”

I’ll stop saying it when it stops being relevant.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Pickle of the Turk

Tag do you know if the steering wheel changes to the LCI G8x with the red strip at 12 o clock? I guess, on the '25 options list, is there a provision for the alcantara wheel?

On the pixellated it seems like there is a red pixel on the wheel and I'd expect the change since everything else has moved to this new style wheel.

Good observation. Looks like it does get the new flat bottom steering wheel with the red center mark. Here's the pixelated dashboard view showing red at the top of the steering wheel where you'd expect the center mark to be. Don't see anything for alcantara and wouldn't expect that on a base model.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by m2not1LE

Wow, those seats look terrible in comparison to cognac that's apparently being "replaced" by something close to this.

I disagree. These seats look pretty good, and much better than cognac. I'd have probably gone with these on my TR instead of M highlights, tough choice.

[deemo319]

Originally Posted by AZG87

SPY looks great on the M4. Nice option to have on the G87. Though not enough to trade in the ZB

ZB is a nice color. São Paulo Yellow doesn’t look good on anything and is questionable as a flavor and color of Gatorade.

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by murderspice

“The worst thing about the g87 are its owners.”

I’ll stop saying it when it stops being relevant.

I think it’s disingenuous to paint all G87 owners with a wide brush. There are myriad opinions here and for the most part I find this discussion has been mostly civil, informative, and relatively unemotional by unpretentious posters. However, I don’t take the forum and/or myself very seriously. Life’s too short.
YMMV

[LAnderson23]

Originally Posted by Tag

Good observation. Looks like it does get the new flat bottom steering wheel with the red center mark. Here's the pixelated dashboard view showing red at the top of the steering wheel where you'd expect the center mark to be. Don't see anything for alcantara and wouldn't expect that on a base model.

Ahhh...damn! That's the one thing I would like to have on my 2024 order. Don't really care for the new colors, but would love a flat-bottomed steering wheel.

[two_three_two]

Originally Posted by murderspice

“The worst thing about the g87 are its owners.”

I’ll stop saying it when it stops being relevant.

and yet you love to hang out with us. birds of a feather and all that

[koopa]

Originally Posted by murderspice

“The worst thing about the g87 are its owners.”

I’ll stop saying it when it stops being relevant.

I don't think it's fair to say that about all G87 owners. They don't all act like that guy.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by Joker96

This pretty much what I've been trying to say. If you want to differentiate the M2 and M4.

Lower quality leather
No carbon seats, roof
No Xdrive
Less HP
Etc

Removing the front camera ( a safety feature ) and offering less colors is NOT the way in my opinion. Especially when lower teirs of 2 series cars have those options......wtf

Carbon seats & roof are available on M2. While rated lower, several dynos have shown the M2 & 4 have the same power output. A front camera is not a safety feature. You should be looking forward when driving forward. Vehicles have these very large windows that allow you to see what's in front of you.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by koopa

I don't think it's fair to say that about all G87 owners. They don't all act like that guy.

It’s fairly common in the first few years after a new car comes up

And I don’t believe he’s referring to all the owners just the few that make it look really bad

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by deemo319

São Paulo Yellow doesn’t look good on anything and is questionable as a flavor and color of Gatorade.

Agree. Looks very much like Accelerate Yellow on the C8 Corvette, which is thankfully being replaced by Competition Yellow for '25.

[///M TOWN]

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[tintin-snowy]

Originally Posted by LAnderson23

Ahhh...damn! That's the one thing I would like to have on my 2024 order. Don't really care for the new colors, but would love a flat-bottomed steering wheel.

I am sure they will offer it as an after sales accessory for current M2 owners.

[Joker96]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

Carbon seats & roof are available on M2. While rated lower, several dynos have shown the M2 & 4 have the same power output. A front camera is not a safety feature. You should be looking forward when driving forward. Vehicles have these very large windows that allow you to see what's in front of you.

I know, I'm saying if they wanted to differ the M2 and M4, remove the carbon seats / roof options and give people the 360 camera that the 240i already has.

It is what it is , I will probably buy the car anyway.

Hopefully the 2025 has the new steering wheel.