[sahajesh]

These modern contraptions - bring back the horse and cart

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by Moopai

What's with the square shape? What the hell is going on with BMW and it's new styling...

In our transhumanistic future, beauty is no longer a thing.

[yousefnjr]

Originally Posted by LuckyL

I mean from the business perspective 100% they’ll leverage the M cache and reputation. And I do underhand that if I was on the inside.

It’s crazy how much they throw the M logo around now. The new M Lite cars have them absolutely everywhere and I think it’s kinda hilarious. I guess it really just sells, But it’s just not the same level of performance and it kind of dilutes the concept of M from a traditional standpoint.

Not really a new thing, this M535i is over 40 years old…

You could probably argue that even the “full M” cars are guilty of the same thing — they’re still road cars with only some of the bits, engineering, and marketing from the actual race cars. Just to a higher degree than the “m lites”. All of this compromise is a good thing btw. Trying to daily an M4 GT3 would probably be awful.

https://www.bmw-m.com/en/topics/maga...m535i-e12.html

[Remonster]

Originally Posted by reprod

The Lucid motors are the key to their success. Their motors are highly efficient and compact. They were ex-Tesla engineers who got tired of Tesla holding back innovation.

It would be amazing if BMW would just buy their motors.

Have you driven one? I would say they have a lot more going for them than just their motor or battery tech. Lucid's chassis setup people got the Air very, very right. It rides and handles extremely well and the steering also feels great. I wasn't expecting to like the Air because it's so huge and I drove a very low trim example but it's actually excellent. I drove that and an i5 on the same day and actually found the BMW to be a joke in comparison.

[Cortexiphan]

It's baffling to hear some people hate on this design with comments like "BMW sucks now" or "RIP BMW." Based on what we're seeing, this design embodies classic BMW. Look at the elements: the long hood (even as a ground-up EV), short overhangs, flared fenders, shark nose, Hofmeister kink, dual lights—it's all there. Even the beltline aligns perfectly with the window sill height of the E30, and the overall shape unmistakably echoes the E30 era - More than any M3 since E30.

This car integrates the hallmarks of BMW's design legacy—features that so-called "enthusiasts" have been lamenting the absence of in other models. And now that these design cues are back, they still complain. It proves one thing: haters will always hate. Bring an exact copy of E46 or E30, they will definitely complain - maybe because it doesn't have the 16" wheels, or because it doesn't leak oil every few months, or maybe because it doesn't have the old school dashboard. BMW has died once they bought their car, and that's it! It’s not about the design—it’s about their arrogance, their self centrism, and their inability to move forward.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by techwhiz1

I don't know why anyone doesn't make an electric coupe already?

COUPE! THIS ! We have the Spectre and the Charger diametricly opposed at ends of the spectrum, but a M2, M4, S5 esque offer would be fantastic. Just sandbag it and I incorporate a manual too ( my fantasy )

[Evinrude1975]

You can’t understand how lucky I was to be 50 years old, because I got to dream, drool over the hood, long for, try, drive, and own wonderful BMWs. If I were 20 now, I would have missed out on the genuine fun and would find myself configuring this hideous crap.

[reprod]

Originally Posted by Remonster

Have you driven one? I would say they have a lot more going for them than just their motor or battery tech. Lucid's chassis setup people got the Air very, very right. It rides and handles extremely well and the steering also feels great. I wasn't expecting to like the Air because it's so huge and I drove a very low trim example but it's actually excellent. I drove that and an i5 on the same day and actually found the BMW to be a joke in comparison.

No I haven't had the opportunity to drive one yet and now I would be worried about trying one and looking it too much. 😂