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      05-18-2022, 01:53 AM   #1585
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Yep and just like the 3 series they have ditched the traditional gear shifter for the automatic.Looks like the M3 LCI is keeping the shifter,so the G87 will probably also have it.The huge screen looks terrible in the new M3 LCI interior.

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Any insider info on if it will have the same/similar manual transmission as the $600K CSL? I am sure BMW spent some time and money for development of the transmission on the 600K car.
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What do you think I've been doing all this time?

P.S. Those closeup shots from the ground around that turn are glorious.
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P.S. Those closeup shots from the ground around that turn are glorious.


That 2:53 mark has me salivating.
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I'm not feelin it but it's also not a deal breaker for me.
Agreed. All they had to do was have the left side of the dash wrap around the damn screen and it would've been great. Maybe an aftermarket solution?
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Agreed. All they had to do was have the left side of the dash wrap around the damn screen and it would've been great. Maybe an aftermarket solution?
Good idea. We can start harassing..., er, suggesting, to aftermarket suppliers to do something.
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Yep and just like the 3 series they have ditched the traditional gear shifter for the automatic.Looks like the M3 LCI is keeping the shifter,so the G87 will probably also have it.The huge screen looks terrible in the new M3 LCI interior.

https://configure.bmw.co.uk/en_GB/co...?expanded=true
Wow someone left their key where the gear shifter should be.
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BMW Germany Configurator now shows the M240i RWD (sDrive) model. We can compare the weight between models as a potential indicator of the M2's weight. This is not 1:1 comparison as there are other components on the M2 that are not on the M240i which increase the G87's overall weight.

Note: These are EU weights and are different from how NA models are measured. I'm ignoring the total weight and just focusing on the delta between the two.
  • M240i sDrive Weight: 1,710 kg
  • M240i xDrive Weight: 1,765 kg
  • Difference: 55 kg / 121.25 lbs
The M240i xDrive on the BMW USA website shows the curb weight as 3,871 lbs. Theoretically when the M240i RWD is available on BMW USA website it should weight in roughly 3,750 lbs.
What does that mean for the M2? It'll weight less without the AWD system and since the sunroof is not standard it'll shed a few pounds there as well, but it will gain weight in other areas such as twin turbos, exhaust for both turbos, additional cooling, chassis bracing, etc. So it very well might regain all the weight that was lost. Either way it's going to be a porker.
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BMW Germany Configurator now shows the M240i RWD (sDrive) model. We can compare the weight between models as a potential indicator of the M2's weight. This is not 1:1 comparison as there are other components on the M2 that are not on the M240i which increase the G87's overall weight.

Note: These are EU weights and are different from how NA models are measured. I'm ignoring the total weight and just focusing on the delta between the two.
  • M240i sDrive Weight: 1,710 kg
  • M240i xDrive Weight: 1,765 kg
  • Difference: 55 kg / 121.25 lbs
The M240i xDrive on the BMW USA website shows the curb weight as 3,871 lbs. Theoretically when the M240i RWD is available on BMW USA website it should weight in roughly 3,750 lbs.
What does that mean for the M2? It'll weight less without the AWD system and since the sunroof is not standard it'll shed a few pounds there as well, but it will gain weight in other areas such as twin turbos, exhaust for both turbos, additional cooling, chassis bracing, etc. So it very well might regain all the weight that was lost. Either way it's going to be a porker.
Jeeeeesus that's so much weight wtf BMW…
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BMW Germany Configurator now shows the M240i RWD (sDrive) model. We can compare the weight between models as a potential indicator of the M2's weight. This is not 1:1 comparison as there are other components on the M2 that are not on the M240i which increase the G87's overall weight.

Note: These are EU weights and are different from how NA models are measured. I'm ignoring the total weight and just focusing on the delta between the two.
  • M240i sDrive Weight: 1,710 kg
  • M240i xDrive Weight: 1,765 kg
  • Difference: 55 kg / 121.25 lbs
The M240i xDrive on the BMW USA website shows the curb weight as 3,871 lbs. Theoretically when the M240i RWD is available on BMW USA website it should weight in roughly 3,750 lbs.
What does that mean for the M2? It'll weight less without the AWD system and since the sunroof is not standard it'll shed a few pounds there as well, but it will gain weight in other areas such as twin turbos, exhaust for both turbos, additional cooling, chassis bracing, etc. So it very well might regain all the weight that was lost. Either way it's going to be a porker.
Jeeeeesus that's so much weight wtf BMW…
I don't get how this will weigh as much as the g80 M3 which is much bigger and has 4 doors… crazy
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I don't get how this will weigh as much as the g80 M3 which is much bigger and has 4 doors… crazy
F87 was the same, weighed almost as much as an F80/2.

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F87 was the same, weighed almost as much as an F80/2.

Literally makes zero sense... there's gotta be a way to design the car with lighter materials and contain the new technology right? It's 2022 why are sports cars almost 4000 lbs???
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Literally makes zero sense... there's gotta be a way to design the car with lighter materials and contain the new technology right? It's 2022 why are sports cars almost 4000 lbs???
My understanding is that that's part of the reason for this.

BMW uses lightweight/expensive materials on the more expensive models (M3/M4) but not on the downmarket stuff.

E.g. the F82 had a carbonfiber roof as standard, but the F87 did not.
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My understanding is that that's part of the reason for this.

BMW uses lightweight/expensive materials on the more expensive models (M3/M4) but not on the downmarket stuff.

E.g. the F82 had a carbonfiber roof as standard, but the F87 did not.
Right, but that's not the case this time around and even then, cars are going up in weight by over a hundred pounds each generation. That's pure insanity! What new tech weighs that much?
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Literally makes zero sense... there's gotta be a way to design the car with lighter materials and contain the new technology right? It's 2022 why are sports cars almost 4000 lbs???
Blame it on regulators

Audi R8, some Lamborghini models, Nissan GTR and several others aren't coming to Australia any more because they don't comply with safely regulations

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That's pure insanity! What new tech weighs that much?
BMW is known for its SensaTec interior, maybe they are calling this new technology NonSensatech?
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Just a thought - leave everything in car construction (materials and dimensions), then add the electronics and sensors that we all expect today - how much does the wire that connects all of that and the computers that control it all end up weighing?
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