[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

Someone placed a video up that actually shows the wing bending. Your assertion is incorrect as is your math.

The delta between VER and HAM on Vmax is only about 4 km/h and even less so for PER.

The Red Bull leaps from the corners with their illegal torque management/traction control. Watch the Spanish GP again. In the last turn, the RB16-B practically leaps from the corner onto the straight and the W12 is only closing about 1/10th of a second.

All teams exploit rules, the speed delta I’m referencing is delta before the speed trap. I wasn’t clear in my post, basically the acceleration to top speed happens quite a bit quicker with the Merc. I’ll try to take a snapshot of it. I’m going to check out your comment for corners and report back, how are they managing torque? Is it throttle mapping?

With DRS and slip stream and and without DRS. DRS is no joke.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

All teams exploit rules, the speed delta I’m referencing is delta before the speed trap. I wasn’t clear in my post, basically the acceleration to top speed happens quite a bit quicker with the Merc. I’ll try to take a snapshot of it. I’m going to check out your comment for corners and report back, how are they managing torque? Is it throttle mapping?

With DRS and slip stream and and without DRS. DRS is no joke.

Yes. You referred to VMax and not Delta V. This makes perfect sense with your caveat.

There is an article about the upgrades to the Honda PU performed during the last races and over the break. I will attempt to find it and share it here. The article details the process to improve the starting performance through adjustments in torque management with the Honda PU in the RB16B. I know that throttle mapping was included but also torque management and a few other parameters. While I know that Drive-By-Wire allows a modicum of throttle application mapping, actually managing the torque, electronically, should fall afoul of, "The car should be driven by the driver alone and without aid(s)."

This is foundational and should definitely be subject to the sanctions.

Cheers-mk

[irunalot]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

Someone placed a video up that actually shows the wing bending. Your assertion is incorrect as is your math.

The delta between VER and HAM on Vmax is only about 4 km/h and even less so for PER.

The Red Bull leaps from the corners with their illegal torque management/traction control. Watch the Spanish GP again. In the last turn, the RB16-B practically leaps from the corner onto the straight and the W12 is only closing about 1/10th of a second.

Here it is

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by irunalot

Here it is

Mate that's old news . Check this out => https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1824931

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

This guy was so close to curtains yet he's made amazing recovery and getting back to health.

The first sprint-race at Silverstone

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The first sprint-race at Silverstone

Goed gedaan

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Goed gedaan

Well done my friend ! Your Dutch looks great

BTW : Austria and Turkey have been canceled !

Damn COVID !!!

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Well done my friend ! Your Dutch looks great

BTW : Austria and Turkey have been canceled !

Damn COVID !!!

Turkey cancelled (good) but isn't Austria Red Bull now a ''double header'' I read..

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Turkey cancelled (good) but isn't Austria Red Bull now a ''double header'' I read..

Yeah . I just noticed it as well...It's really strange . I don't get it...

[///M Power-Belgium]

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yeah nice one, my goosebumps will stop when Checo 'gets up there' and helps out more, he's got his chance at Monaco.

[fiveohwblow]

Holy shit, Max gets years to become a champion but Checo has to help in 3-4 races? Y'all still over the top on both sides of all arguments. Nuckin Futts the lot.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Yeah nice one, my goosebumps will stop when Checo 'gets up there' and helps out more, he's got his chance at Monaco.

Monaco ?
Well my friend , as we know It's almost impossible to overtake at Monaco .
This means that Checo has to be at least second row P4 at the startgrid .

From what we saw from him in the first four races , It's a "Mission Impossible"
But let us hope so...

What I fear at Monaco is HAM's hidden Warp-Speed in the tunnel ...
And of course the pitstop hammer ...While the clock is ticking !

In Monaco It's all about the softs C/4-5 (when dry) Good for Red Bull , as we know the Mercs are unbeatable with mediums

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I'm thinking of the tunnel speed also and possible overtakes before the chicane.
We can only hope that on the track with the lowest average speed Checo will come into play and I expect other midfielders to move up also.

If it should rain then it may be some chaos but I expect the RB's superb starts to be a factor in a win here.

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[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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Probably the message flashed too quickly to come in AFTER the next one, which is why the team even so reacted like lightning seing him coming in early.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Probably the message flashed too quickly to come in AFTER the next one, which is why the team even so reacted like lightning seing him coming in early.

Another issue was Toto , Red Bull didn't spoke too much over the onboard radio to keep Red Bull's strategy secret .
So , MAX had a lack of information ..
I'm convinced , Toto's ears are everywhere ....because Toto is a Austrian spy !

As I said , there is a war going on : "HONDA vs MERCEDES" ("MAX vs HAM")

Remember WWII !!!

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

With wolf pack man it's like the 'secret service' he employs such like people to do this and tell him just like the gastepo listening trying to catch r/operators in the maquis in WW 2,what a snake.

Yeah my friend . And the W12 warp-speed is "The Enigma"

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

The RB's own ''Alan Turing'' decipherer will rout that rat in Merc

Grosjean said : The car ....

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Grosjean said : The car ....

My friend only a fool believes it's just the driver, Russ and now Gro and any others that can take a ride in 44 car.
Trouble is the RB takes longer to get acclimatised to as Checo is experiencing.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Damn right he is scared of Max and a few others!!!!! He should be as non-driving ROSturd actually took one title away. He'd be light a few more if there were actual completion in the sister car.

But, that's F1 and Ferrari played the same game up until now. I still think LEC is a #1 but can see SAI putting up a battle once acclimated to the car. Time will tell. Now RB just has to get on PER. I expected much more of a fight!

For you mate => "Why Ferrari can cause a big shock at Monaco" => https://racingnews365.com/why-ferrar...hock-at-monaco

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

My friend only a fool believes it's just the driver, Russ and now Gro and any others that can take a ride in 44 car.
Trouble is the RB takes longer to get acclimatised to as Checo is experiencing.

I said : "WAR" !!!

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Yeah hammy certainly don't like it when its 'up im' and if it's these little things that get up his nose then ''let the sport begin''

Yeah .If we take a look into my crystal ball (s) I can see a HAM&MAX crash soon ..