[Tag]

Originally Posted by solstice

Yikes, is that without adding more standard content?

Correct. The base M3/4 jumped $2,700 while the M3/4 Competition models jumped $3,700 without any new features. Furthermore many options also jumped in price.

Check out the price increase thread and look at the bottom of the first post for options that also had a price increase.

BMW USA Price Increase For All 2023 Model Year Vehicles & Some Options

I'm worried the G87 will start close to $70k and with a few options could easily climb to $80k+.

[StickyPickle]

Originally Posted by Tag

Correct. The base M3/4 jumped $2,700 while the M3/4 Competition models jumped $3,700 without any new features. Furthermore many options also jumped in price.

Check out the price increase thread and look at the bottom of the first post for options that also had a price increase.

BMW USA Price Increase For All 2023 Model Year Vehicles & Some Options

I'm worried the G87 will start close to $70k and with a few options could easily climb to $80k+.

The M2 has roughly been 10-12K more than the M240i and 8-10K less than a M3 in the same model year. If BMW sticks with this same formula and going off of what the M240i and M3 will be for MY2023, I'm guessing we'll see a starting MSRP of around 62-64K for the M2

[Bumpinjeep]

Price Predictions
In 2016, the M2 was $51,700 (invoice $48,065)
In 2022, that would be $62,277 worth of buying power.
There is going to be significantly more/better things in the G87 vs 2016 F87. In that case, $62K would be a bargain. However, that's still $62K starting price for a M2, which is a big chunk of change. Factor in some options and this is easily a $70,000. Again, that's not insignificant. And yes, we get that the M2 is the new M3 and the M3 is the new M5. Still, this is a large departure from the norm.
I guess what I'm saying is that I predict the car will start at $64,250.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

Price Predictions
In 2016, the M2 was $51,700 (invoice $48,065)
In 2022, that would be $62,277 worth of buying power.
There is going to be significantly more/better things in the G87 vs 2016 F87. In that case, $62K would be a bargain. However, that's still $62K starting price for a M2, which is a big chunk of change. Factor in some options and this is easily a $70,000. Again, that's not insignificant. And yes, we get that the M2 is the new M3 and the M3 is the new M5. Still, this is a large departure from the norm.
I guess what I'm saying is that I predict the car will start at $64,250.

That is certainly plausible.

[Gdiddy23]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

Price Predictions
In 2016, the M2 was $51,700 (invoice $48,065)
In 2022, that would be $62,277 worth of buying power.
There is going to be significantly more/better things in the G87 vs 2016 F87. In that case, $62K would be a bargain. However, that's still $62K starting price for a M2, which is a big chunk of change. Factor in some options and this is easily a $70,000. Again, that's not insignificant. And yes, we get that the M2 is the new M3 and the M3 is the new M5. Still, this is a large departure from the norm.
I guess what I'm saying is that I predict the car will start at $64,250.

I'd still probably be interested in the car at your predicted price but anything above $65k starting price and I'll prob look at getting something else. Barring I'm not completely blown away by the looks when it's released.

But with the way the economy may be heading in the near future, we may hopefully see vehicle prices return back down to earth by the end of '22 which would give me even more options for something sub $75k

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Gdiddy23

I'd still probably be interested in the car at your predicted price but anything above $65k starting price and I'll prob look at getting something else. Barring I'm not completely blown away by the looks when it's released.

But with the way the economy may be heading in the near future, we may hopefully see vehicle prices return back down to earth by the end of '22 which would give me even more options for something sub $75k

Anymore than $70k with my desired options and I would probably just order a base/manual G80. Who knows… I have been bitten by the Porsche bug so if the G87 does not pan out I will probably hold tight and wait for this craziness to end.

[Project_F87]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

Anymore than $70k with my desired options and I would probably just order a base/manual G80. Who owns, I have been bitten by the Porsche bug so if the G87 does not pan out I will probably hold tight and wait for this craziness to end.

Agreed with your last point. The GT4 is calling my name louder and louder each day with deafening persistence. Not gonna happen with a $30k markup as was quoted to me yesterday for a new allocation, but $5k and under and I'm doing it. We'll see what happens

[Game]

Uneventful week.

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by Project_F87

Agreed with your last point. The GT4 is calling my name louder and louder each day with deafening persistence. Not gonna happen with a $30k markup as was quoted to me yesterday for a new allocation, but $5k and under and I'm doing it. We'll see what happens

Bruh, I went to cars.com, found the 3 new GT4s for sale in the country with one having actual pictures, meaning the other 2 are spoken for, at $132K, you could legit buy two G87s for the price of one GT4. I don't think its apples to apples here.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Game

Uneventful week.

Just means next week will not be.

[trey100]

There's a long thread on that video. They didn't use the new car. It's a Tesla and F87.

[Project_F87]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

Bruh, I went to cars.com, found the 3 new GT4s for sale in the country with one having actual pictures, meaning the other 2 are spoken for, at $132K, you could legit buy two G87s for the price of one GT4. I don't think its apples to apples here.

I know the price point and it's definitely not apples to apples; I didn't say it was. I am basically saying I am willing to make the jump upwards if I can get a GT4 for (or close to) MSRP. The only reason why I haven't is because all Porsche GT cars are marked up, and I am not willing to pay a ridiculous mark up

[Game]

Originally Posted by Sporck

Where do you got this information? Is this confirmed? I can't find any information until now!

Spoke with BMW Blog.

[Tag]

My math was correct.

Original post

BMWBLOG: 2023 BMW M240i Coupe RWD Is 55 KG Lighter Than xDrive Model

[solstice]

Originally Posted by Tag

My math was correct.

Original post

BMWBLOG: 2023 BMW M240i Coupe RWD Is 55 KG Lighter Than xDrive Model

So 3604 lbs for the RWD M240i.

“With BMW presumably throwing in some carbon fiber upgrades, especially for a (finger crossed) M2 CS and/or CSL, we could see that number going down even further.”

No need to wait for a CS or CSL. The standard M2 should lose around 50lbs by replacing the M240i steel roof and large glass moonroof with a CF top. And CF buckets will be available for another 20 lbs or so off. The standard M2 could be in the mid to high 3500s depending how much weight is added back by the widening and strengthening. The G87 will be a peach have no doubts.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by solstice

So 3604 lbs for the RWD M240i.

“With BMW presumably throwing in some carbon fiber upgrades, especially for a (finger crossed) M2 CS and/or CSL, we could see that number going down even further.”

No need to wait for a CS or CSL. The standard M2 should lose around 50lbs by replacing the M240i steel roof and large glass moonroof with a CF top. And CF buckets will be available for another 20 lbs or so off. The standard M2 could be in the mid to high 3500s depending how much weight is added back by the widening and strengthening. The G87 will be a peach have no doubts.

I think BMWBLOG's math is wrong, not sure how they got that low of a number. Check out the weight breakdown in my original post. I was just stating that the 55kg reduction in weight was accurate.

[BMWGirlFL]

Not sure if new pics or just new posts.

[Game]

Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

Not sure if new pics or just new posts.

I'd guess they're older pics but still good to see.

I imagine pretty soon these cars will be done testing, no? At that point we'll probably not have anything until the reveal.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Game

I'd guess they're older pics but still good to see.

I imagine pretty soon these cars will be done testing, no? At that point we'll probably not have anything until the reveal.

There will be ongoing testing for a while and you'll start to see sections of the camo get dropped. There will also be more "leaks" from BMW. You have the initial demo drive reviews that will be out soon, etc. They'll milk this until it's officially revealed later this year, it's their MO.

[BMWGirlFL]

Looks like the AMG GT nearby. Same M2 plate testing same day last month.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

Looks like the AMG GT nearby. Same M2 plate testing same day last month.
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The rear bumper in that first video doesn't look so offensive, then again it's still in camo.

I...
am...
nervous...

[solstice]

Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

Looks like the AMG GT nearby. Same M2 plate testing same day last month.

Lol, I wasn’t sure but it looked like leisurely sightseeing in the first segment but after 1:38 where the CSL pull rank on it, we’ll it’s obvious he is just cruising