[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

There is nothing in California's vehicle code prohibiting what the truck driver did.

Thanks for the response.

[Sophisticated Redneck]

My brother in law recently lost his 25 year old daughter. He missed being by her side when she died by only minutes due to traffic.

It has changed how I see aggressive drivers. Sure they could just be a douche on wheels, but more often then not I bet it is an actual emergency.

[BMWGUYinCO]

Originally Posted by Sophisticated Redneck

My brother in law recently lost his 25 year old daughter. He missed being by her side when she died by only minutes due to traffic.

It has changed how I see aggressive drivers. Sure they could just be a douche on wheels, but more often then not I bet it is an actual emergency.

You're making a point, but if that is the case, at least turn on your hazard lights, - might help other drivers understand.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Sophisticated Redneck

My brother in law recently lost his 25 year old daughter. He missed being by her side when she died by only minutes due to traffic.

It's changed how I see aggressive drivers. Sure they could just be a douche on wheels, but more often then not Its most likely an emergency of some kind.

No it is not! The likelihood of a driver operating a motor vehicle aggressively due to a medical emergency is a low percentage outlier. The vast majority of the aggressive drivers out there are impatient drivers who are trying to show off, in a rush, mad at the world, driving a stolen vehicle, high on drugs and/or people who have no regard for speed laws and feel that public roads are their own personal racetrack(s) (…all without adequate car control skills, adding to the calamity their actions cause).

In my career I can count on ONE or maybe TWO hand(s) the number of people who have caused collisions due to medical emergencies; usually from seizures or heart attacks behind the wheel. On average I respond to 5-6 collisions A DAY on top of all of the assaults [with deadly weapons], robberies, burglaries, car jackings, etc.


P.S. If you're having a medical emergency, pull over and call 911. The highway patrol, fire department and EMS will be far more useful and effective than driving like a jerk.

[infinitekidM2C]

This is still going on?! lmao

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by infinitekidM2C

This is still going on?! lmao

This is a complex situation with lots of variables!! It takes time to analyze all the data and figure out what REALLY happened here!!

Shit it’s been like 3 years and we still havent figured out wether or not you should open car doors for women soooo… give us a break!!

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Chihuahua

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Exactly. Once the Accord driver went from the left lane to the shoulder to pass, it was game over. In any state, it is not legal to use the shoulder as a traffic lane (unless marked) except for an emergency.

As a road rage racer on public roads... that's just plain cheatin'

[e90335e36m3]

Originally Posted by BMWGUYinCO

You're making a point, but if that is the case, at least turn on your hazard lights, - might help other drivers understand.

In my experience, that seldom works, only serves to agitate the lane hogs and add to their sense of entitlement. The liability / responsibility debate notwithstanding, there's no denying that the truck driver is a total douchebag and is the root cause for the chain of events that unfolded (at least from what I see in the video), again even if he is not legally liable.

Cause and effect, if the truck driver did not hog the left lane nor intentionally accelerated to prevent the Honda driver passing at any cost, the subsequent accident would not have occurred.

Honda driver is an idiot though for such aggressive driving.

[leopard print]

Originally Posted by infinitekidM2C

This is still going on?! lmao

Shhhhhhhh...it's Friday. I need some reading material to get me to the weekend.

[wtwo3]

sometimes on Fridays I like to daydream about what it would be like to have the roads all to myself... no other drivers.... no rules.... I would time myself getting to each destination and try to beat my time.

The world would be my racetrack.

[tcphoto]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

P.S. If you're having a medical emergency, pull over and call 911. The highway patrol, fire department and EMS will be far more useful and effective than driving like a jerk.

Exactly, if it's a legitimate emergency call for assistance because they will get you help quicker than you can. Otherwise, you're like every other Karen and Chad that thinks they're more important than anyone else.

[BMWGUYinCO]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

P.S. If you're having a medical emergency, pull over and call 911. The highway patrol, fire department and EMS will be far more useful and effective than driving like a jerk.

Hm, I wasn't interpreting this as the driver having the medical emergency, but based on an earlier post by Sophisticated Redneck, I was thinking of a driver having to get to a family member quickly who is having the medical emergency.

If I learned my wife or son were having a serious medical emergency, I would probably be exceeding the speed limit, and would turn on my hazard lights to get to them....but all of this being said, I 100% agree with Sedan_Clan that this type of situation represents the smallest of percentages.

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

EVERyONE GOING to JAIL

[wrickem]

Am I the only one bothered by the videographer driving away commenting "very nice, you suck, that's what you get" instead of maybe stopping and seeing if they can help somebody (Ok- an S$$hole, but still a human) who they'd just watched crash horrifically?

Yeah, they deserved it, but still...

[zx10guy]

Originally Posted by tcphoto

Exactly, if it's a legitimate emergency call for assistance because they will get you help quicker than you can. Otherwise, you're like every other Karen and Chad that thinks they're more important than anyone else.

I was personally in this situation. It was a tough call whether to go to the local hospital or go 40+ miles to the hospital that performed my cancer surgery. The issue was that I was suffering from extreme pain in the area where I had just had a tumor removed along with my descending colon. I didn't know if I was suffering from complications from the surgery. My local hospital is not a cancer center so I made the call to make the 40+ mile drive. My then fiance/ex wife drove me as I was in the back seat hunched over hoping to pass out due to the excruciating pain. She sped all the way to the cancer center and thankfully it was on New Years day so traffic was light.

I understand my situation is very unique.

[Sophisticated Redneck]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

No it is not! The likelihood of a driver operating a motor vehicle aggressively due to a medical emergency is a low percentage outlier. The vast majority of the aggressive drivers out there are impatient drivers who are trying to show off, in a rush, mad at the world, driving a stolen vehicle, high on drugs and/or people who have no regard for speed laws and feel that public roads are their own personal racetrack(s) (…all without adequate car control skills, adding to the calamity their actions cause).

In my career I can count on ONE or maybe TWO hand(s) the number of people who have caused collisions due to medical emergencies; usually from seizures or heart attacks behind the wheel. On average I respond to 5-6 collisions A DAY on top of all of the assaults [with deadly weapons], robberies, burglaries, car jackings, etc.


P.S. If you're having a medical emergency, pull over and call 911. The highway patrol, fire department and EMS will be far more useful and effective than driving like a jerk.

Don't strawman me, I said he was driving TO be at his daughters side and missed it by a few minutes, she was already at the hospital.

I dare you to say you would obey all traffic laws had you received a similar call and I'll be the first to say your lying through your teeth.

Two life lessons in this particular case: Have a little freaking compassion, who knows what's going on in that other person's life, they are obviously having a bad day, best let them pass. Nobody elected the driver of the truck judge of who and why someone gets to pass. I am not defending the car, obviously that driver is in the wrong, but the truck advanced an already dangerous situation into a deadly situation. Maybe not technically illegal, and if not then the laws need to be changed on purposely trying to create a deadly situation by speeding up to block the other driver.

Second life lesson: Always drive cars with ridiculous amounts of horsepower. This way he would not even had noticed the truck tried to block him

[wtwo3]

Originally Posted by Sophisticated Redneck

Second life lesson: Always drive cars with ridiculous amounts of horsepower. This way he would not even had noticed the truck tried to block him

I've been trying to tell my wife this for years.

[upstatedoc]

Lotta rage in this road rage thread

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by Sophisticated Redneck

Don't strawman me, I said he was driving TO be at his daughters side and missed it by a few minutes, she was already at the hospital.

I dare you to say you would obey all traffic laws had you received a similar call and I'll be the first to say your lying through your teeth.

Two life lessons in this particular case: Have a little freaking compassion, who knows what's going on in that other person's life, they are obviously having a bad day, best let them pass. Nobody elected the truck to be the highway patrol

Second life lesson: Always drive cars with ridiculous amounts of horsepower. This way he would not even had noticed the truck tried to block him

Don't think he 'strawman'd' you. You're basically claiming that >50% was due to some justified emergency and he's saying that is clearly not the case and it's in an extremely low %age.

[Sophisticated Redneck]

Originally Posted by tranquility

Don't think he 'strawman'd' you. You're basically claiming that >50% was due to some justified emergency and he's saying that is clearly not the case and it's in an extremely low %age.

He did, read last part saying calling 911, complete straw man of my argument. He's barking up the wrong fucking tree if he wants to go toe to toe on what happened to my brother in law/niece.

And his data point is invalid, he only knows in those that result in officer interaction. What percentage is that of the aggressive driving we see each day? 1, maybe 2 percent?

Bottom line is: nobody knows what going on in their head other then they are obviously having a bad day, what's the point of messing with someone driving like a douchebag/aggressive other then to look for a fight. Best to just assume it's justified and let them pass. One day it could be you.

[tcphoto]

Originally Posted by zx10guy

I was personally in this situation. It was a tough call whether to go to the local hospital or go 40+ miles to the hospital that performed my cancer surgery. The issue was that I was suffering from extreme pain in the area where I had just had a tumor removed along with my descending colon. I didn't know if I was suffering from complications from the surgery. My local hospital is not a cancer center so I made the call to make the 40+ mile drive. My then fiance/ex wife drove me as I was in the back seat hunched over hoping to pass out due to the excruciating pain. She sped all the way to the cancer center and thankfully it was on New Years day so traffic was light.

I understand my situation is very unique.

Yes, I think there is a right way to do things and a wrong way. On April 1, my Stepmother fell and broke her ankle. She was going to have surgery a few days later but suffered a mild stroke the next night. I knew it was important to get her to the hospital as soon as possible in hopes of minimizing the effects. I got her into the car quickly and made the fifteen minute trip to the Emergency Room. There wasn't much traffic but people camped out in the left lane not even going the speed limit so I simply got in the other lane and proceeded carefully. At 82, she has underlying health issues and time was of the essence but I also wanted to arrive safely. Luckily, she has recovered most of her facilities but it could have been fatal.

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by Sophisticated Redneck

He did, read last part saying calling 911, complete straw man of my argument. He's barking up the wrong fucking tree if he wants to go toe to toe on what happened to my brother in law/niece.

And his data point is invalid, he only knows in those that result in officer interaction. What percentage is that of the aggressive driving we see each day? 1, maybe 2 percent?

Bottom line is: nobody knows what going on in their head other then they are obviously having a bad day, what's the point of messing with someone driving like a douchebag other then to look for a fight. Best to just assume it's justified and let them pass. One day it could be you.

It's not, he's merely stating a catchall situation re medical emergency (and that could encompass cases like your BIL or someone having immediate health prbs at the wheel). Anyway, I dunno why you'd think you have a better grasp of the actual %ages of what's what vs an actual officer in their specific line of work. Cmon, insisting that >50% are justified emergencies but then your disjointed 2nd para seems to agree w him, you're not making much sense on top of getting too frazzled.

'Could be me', huh, acting like the truck/Accord? Naw.