U.S. G87 M Performance Parts Pricing (port installed)

m20e3087 · 02-20-2023, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Game

More parts updated in first post.

Couple things to note:
- Looks like the modified the name of the spoiler to "read deck lid spoiler"...so it looks like the wing is not currently available.
- MPP 1000m wheels are also available in black
- MP Steering wheel pro is available now for automatics only

What’s the pro steering? Is it same a CS or CSL wheel?

Tag · 02-20-2023, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

That sucks.

It’s definitely a perk of getting them pre-installed.

The shop I went to, is 2:39 from my house. I drove there, they spent like 6-7 hours installing and aligning the car and then I drove home. Was it ideal, no, but that’s where I chose to get them installed. My other option was to go to LA to get them installed. But i would have had to take passengers and take them to Disneyland.

They’re already available. It’s the same part number for the G8X.

The M2 has different spring rates than the G80/2 so I'm betting these will also need coding for the G87 to accommodate that. All the more reason to get them port installed or at the dealer at the very least.

zero21 · 02-20-2023, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by m20e3087

What’s the pro steering? Is it same a CS or CSL wheel?

That's the steering wheel replacement - bigger thumb grips, flat-ish bottom, light blue stripe in the center of the wheel. The material is a mix of leather and alcantara.

Limegrntaln · 02-20-2023, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tag

The M2 has different spring rates than the G80/2 so I'm betting these will also need coding for the G87 to accommodate that. All the more reason to get them port installed or at the dealer at the very least.

It’s the same part number. So, I’m not sure how they’d differentiate between which car they need to be fitted to. Unless the part number is wrong on the G87 side.

Tag · 02-20-2023, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

It’s the same part number. So, I’m not sure how they’d differentiate between which car they need to be fitted to. Unless the part number is wrong on the G87 side.

Yeah, that's what I mean. Same PN means they are meant to be used on the M3/4, but if they're used on the M2 which has different spring rates I'd imagine they will need to code the dampers to accommodate. At least I hope so, wouldn't make sense to use a HAS kit with spring rates for an M3/4 on an M2 without some adjustment.

Limegrntaln · 02-20-2023, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tag

Yeah, that's what I mean. Same PN means they are meant to be used on the M3/4, but if they're used on the M2 which has different spring rates I'd imagine they will need to code the dampers to accommodate. At least I hope so, wouldn't make sense to use a HAS kit with spring rates for an M3/4 on an M2 without some adjustment.

Something is off.

zero21 · 02-20-2023, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

Something is off.

BMW said at the Saltzberg Ring they played with the rates to make the front stiffer and the rear a bit softer. Even if the weights were the same, I don't think the springs are.

BMW has also been playing games with several parts on the car. We know for instance the 963M wheels are not nearly the same as advertised on the Performance Parts car - completely different design with central locking and new hubs.

Game · 02-20-2023, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by zero21

BMW said at the Saltzberg Ring they played with the rates to make the front stiffer and the rear a bit softer. Even if the weights were the same, I don't think the springs are.

BMW has also been playing games with several parts on the car. We know for instance the 963M wheels are not nearly the same as advertised on the Performance Parts car - completely different design with central locking and new hubs.

Well that's good and all...this likely means H&R and others will have to redesign a spring...which means we can't drop our cars for a bit of time.

Tag · 02-20-2023, 05:39 PM

They offer the HAS kit for the M3 Touring as well. The reason that's of interest is BMW specifically said they used the same rear dampers/setup from the M3 Touring on the M2. I cannot however find the PN for them anywhere. Would be interesting to see if it's the same PN as the G80/2/7.

M3 Competition Touring Performance Parts

M_Power Rob · 02-20-2023, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Game

Well that's good and all...this likely means H&R and others will have to redesign a spring...which means we can't drop our cars for a bit of time.

My friend knows the head of R&D at H&R personally. There will not be too much or a delay in the release of the springs for the G87 M2. The big question is what version will the release first (when I got my 2018 B9 S5 on release, the first spring that was available from H&R was adjustable lowering spring...which was great but I didnt need it and unfortunately I had no option but to go with it...car has never been adjusted since the initial final set up).

Game · 02-20-2023, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

My friend knows the head of R&D at H&R personally. There will not be too much or a delay in the release of the springs for the G87 M2. The big question is what version will the release first (when I got my 2018 B9 S5 on release, the first spring that was available from H&R was adjustable lowering spring...which was great but I didnt need it and unfortunately I had no option but to go with it...car has never been adjusted since the initial final set up).

Yeah I just need a sport or super sport...I've noticed that at times on the G80 they both give the same drop. But that's good news. Hopefully I can drop it this summer!

M_Power Rob · 02-20-2023, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Game

Yeah I just need a sport or super sport...I've noticed that at times on the G80 they both give the same drop. But that's good news. Hopefully I can drop it this summer!

I am with you. I dont want to have to pay for the adjustable nir deal with the crap of it.

zero21 · 02-20-2023, 06:08 PM

I would happily go with just a spring change if someone made them in only 10-12mm drop. I don't want to go a full inch lower.

M_Power Rob · 02-20-2023, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by zero21

I would happily go with just a spring change if someone made them in only 10-12mm drop. I don't want to go a full inch lower.

Look at what H&R has for the M240. I would expect it to be very similar to what they do for the M2. H&R designs for performance, not for looks and slamming.

Game · 02-20-2023, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Look at what H&R has for the M240. I would expect it to be very similar to what they do for the M2. H&R designs for performance, not for looks and slamming.

I’d think they’d mimic the G80 more than the G42.

M_Power Rob · 02-20-2023, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Game

I’d think they’d mimic the G80 more than the G42.

Either way, you can get an idea of the drop.

aerobod · 02-20-2023, 09:47 PM

In the UK there is a bit of a cottage industry in custom suspension spring manufacture. Any specific spring rate and size can be produced for one-off applications, for example:

https://dfaulknersprings.com/special...made-to-order/

Or https://springcoil.co.uk/spring/suspension-springs/

M_Power Rob · 02-20-2023, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by aerobod

In the UK there is a bit of a cottage industry in custom suspension spring manufacture. Any specific spring rate and size can be produced for one-off applications, for example:

https://dfaulknersprings.com/special...made-to-order/

Or https://springcoil.co.uk/spring/suspension-springs/

Made to order? Sounds beyond sketchy, or even money grubbing. Real manufacturers do R&D for each car to make springs for specific purposes/performance. Its not just, "hey, I want a random spring made for who knows what..."

zero21 · 02-20-2023, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Made to order? Sounds beyond sketchy, or even money grubbing. Real manufacturers do R&D for each car to make springs for specific purposes/performance. Its not just, "hey, I want a random spring made for who knows what..."

That's a little dramatic. Spring manufacturing isn't exactly rocket science man. As long as you know some basic parameters it's fully doable.

M_Power Rob · 02-20-2023, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by zero21

That's a little dramatic. Spring manufacturing isn't exactly rocket science man. As long as you know some basic parameters it's fully doable.

Really? Me thinks you need some learning...

aerobod · 02-20-2023, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Made to order? Sounds beyond sketchy, or even money grubbing. Real manufacturers do R&D for each car to make springs for specific purposes/performance. Its not just, "hey, I want a random spring made for who knows what..."

There are plenty of race teams in the UK that rely on this sort of bespoke manufacture. The classic car restorers are also a major source of business.

The expectation is that the customer knows what they want if they haven’t produced a spring for a given application to that point.

Any one with a good automotive suspension knowledge shouldn’t have a problem in specifying the right spring parameters to meet a given performance goal, the bigger challenge is to match the right damping to the springs.

swagon · 03-07-2023, 06:58 AM

Part Number HAS 31 30 5A2D979.

Shared with G80 and G82.

Funnily enough, standard M2 springs are bespoke and differ between 6MT & 8AT.

EDC dampers front are shared with RWD G80 & G82, rears are G80 CS & G81.

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