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      07-11-2023, 07:06 AM   #1783
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My CA just told me that carbon seats are not available and I’m trying to get him to switch me with the person behind me on the list. However, he’s saying that I can’t do that and the best he can do is put me at the back of the line. Considering the list is over 50 people long at this point I don’t know what to do.
My CA made the offer to me to give up my allocation because I wanted the carbon seats and frozen blue and I am still first on the wait list for their next allocation. They are a larger dealer in the suburbs of NY and said they get 1-2 allocations every 2-3 months but the M2’s have been sporadic they said. I was surprised when I walked in randomly and they didnt have a waitlist and an available allocation, I imediately put a deposit down spec’d out what I want and was on my way. 3 days later I got the call they cannot do carbon and asking what I wanted to do.
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My CA made the offer to me to give up my allocation because I wanted the carbon seats and frozen blue and I am still first on the wait list for their next allocation. They are a larger dealer in the suburbs of NY and said they get 1-2 allocations every 2-3 months but the M2’s have been sporadic they said. I was surprised when I walked in randomly and they didnt have a waitlist and an available allocation, I imediately put a deposit down spec’d out what I want and was on my way. 3 days later I got the call they cannot do carbon and asking what I wanted to do.
Larger dealer, NY, no waitlist? Odd….msrp or adm?
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      07-11-2023, 01:08 PM   #1785
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Larger dealer, NY, no waitlist? Odd….msrp or adm?
Msrp, two NY dealers wanted 2500 or 5000 this dealer on border of NY in Jersey didn’t have an adm and they had an allocation available.
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      07-11-2023, 08:17 PM   #1786
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He can but he doesn’t want to do it. My CA has done it twice for me. Talk to somebody higher up in the food chain there.
Do you think the CA wants to do this, or is the one making this call? Your CA only wants to sell a car. Nothing more. If this is the rule, then it is coming from higher than the CA. This is management trying to get their CAs to stop putting flakes in the order bank.
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Do you think the CA wants to do this, or is the one making this call? Your CA only wants to sell a car. Nothing more. If this is the rule, then it is coming from higher than the CA. This is management trying to get their CAs to stop putting flakes in the order bank.
What I think is the CA is trying to be a prick or is a prick or is on a power trip. Look, if he moves the guy back one spot, nobody else in line gets hurt. Third place, fourth place, etc. aren’t affected only the first 2. The guy in second receives an allocation and our guy moves back a slot. If the waiting list is 50, the CA is going to sell every car regardless of who moves back 1 or 2 slots; there are not enough “flakes” for management to worry about. You’re way off.
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What I think is the CA is trying to be a prick or is a prick or is on a power trip. Look, if he moves the guy back one spot, nobody else in line gets hurt. Third place, fourth place, etc. aren’t affected only the first 2. The guy in second receives an allocation and our guy moves back a slot. If the waiting list is 50, the CA is going to sell every car regardless of who moves back 1 or 2 slots; there are not enough “flakes” for management to worry about. You’re way off.
There is no benefit to the CA being a prick. If the waiting list is 50 the CA will not sell every car. There are 10-20 other CAs selling those cars, and no CA wants to lose their place in line. That I can promise you. There is no benefit in a CA making up such a rule, but there could be for management.

I don't agree with the rule, and my dealership doesn't do it this way, but I am definitely not way off.
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My CA made the offer to me to give up my allocation because I wanted the carbon seats and frozen blue and I am still first on the wait list for their next allocation. They are a larger dealer in the suburbs of NY and said they get 1-2 allocations every 2-3 months but the M2’s have been sporadic they said. I was surprised when I walked in randomly and they didnt have a waitlist and an available allocation, I imediately put a deposit down spec’d out what I want and was on my way. 3 days later I got the call they cannot do carbon and asking what I wanted to do.
Long Island, NY hates sports cars. They are hard to drive in the winter. They love stupid SUVs.
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There is no benefit to the CA being a prick. If the waiting list is 50 the CA will not sell every car. There are 10-20 other CAs selling those cars, and no CA wants to lose their place in line. That I can promise you. There is no benefit in a CA making up such a rule, but there could be for management.

I don't agree with the rule, and my dealership doesn't do it this way, but I am definitely not way off.
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Msrp, two NY dealers wanted 2500 or 5000 this dealer on border of NY in Jersey didn’t have an adm and they had an allocation available.
Bloomfield? I bought my M2C there if so
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Bloomfield? I bought my M2C there if so
Ramsey, a little farther north
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Ramsey, a little farther north
Just up the road from Jack Daniels.
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Just up the road from Jack Daniels.
They wanted an ADM and they did not have an allocation
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They wanted an ADM and they did not have an allocation
I didn’t know JD had a BMW Center, I’m familiar with their Audi and Porsche stores.
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I didn’t know JD had a BMW Center, I’m familiar with their Audi and Porsche stores.
I’m an idiot and was thinking of a different one not JD. My appoligies
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I’m an idiot and was thinking of a different one not JD. My appoligies
No need, they should have a BMW Center. I drove by Park Ave BMW last night heading to the Lodi Tesla charger, it looks like a smaller operation. Frankly, I’m not familiar with any of the NJ stores. From what I’ve seen on here many are ADM happy.
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I didn’t know JD had a BMW Center, I’m familiar with their Audi and Porsche stores.

And their Tennessee whiskey.
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No need, they should have a BMW Center. I drove by Park Ave BMW last night heading to the Lodi Tesla charger, it looks like a smaller operation. Frankly, I’m not familiar with any of the NJ stores. From what I’ve seen on here many are ADM happy.

I deal with Park Ave. I’ve purchased and ordered two individual m3s and now my m2. Ask for Aimon if anyone needs a allocation.
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G87 allocations for the most part tend to be sporadic so there is no guarantee that your center will get one come January 2024. Furthermore, a lot in life can happened between now and August 2024 while waiting for MY25 production to begin. If we spent most of our lives waiting on the “next best thing” we will most certainly miss out on a lot in the present.
Damn solid advice.

Curious, do you think BMW got more orders for the Carbon Pack than they were expecting or is it purely a Production issue. I’ve never followed the Trails & Tribulations on the other M forums, is this a commonly reoccurring issue?
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Damn solid advice.

Curious, do you think BMW got more orders for the Carbon Pack than they were expecting or is it purely a Production issue. I’ve never followed the Trails & Tribulations on the other M forums, is this a commonly reoccurring issue?
Take this with a grain of salt, but I have heard it is a combination of both.
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Take this with a grain of salt, but I have heard it is a combination of both.

Well done BMW, got a lot of customers pushed into ‘24s while apparent backlog has eased at SLP. According to GregW / Oregon’s research they appear to be pushing out G87s a lot faster now, no clue regarding other models.
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Well done BMW, got a lot of customers pushed into ‘24s while apparent backlog has eased at SLP. According to GregW / Oregon’s research they appear to be pushing out G87s a lot faster now, no clue regarding other models.

They may be pushing the production of the M2 through but they are still backlogged/jammed in terms of delivery (whether its the strut tower issue or timing with number of cars to ships, who knows). Remember, its not just M2s being shipped and all models could be affected by the strut tower issue.
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Take this with a grain of salt, but I have heard it is a combination of both.

I think its more on the sude of supply issues with the cf buckets.
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