[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Murf993

And away we go.

Yeah! I said the same thing. Reasonable doubt and he's off.

[UncleWede]

BUT if the stretcher is there, isn't that 9 minutes later??

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

BUT if the stretcher is there, isn't that 9 minutes later??

Possibly.......but that's an excerpt from longer testimony, so I guess we'll see.

[Littlebear]

Originally Posted by Lady Jane

I can hear the media doing the back pedaling shuffle.

Your superpowers are quite amazing!
I can't hear "the media" eating Briana Taylor crow now... or the law & order crowd.

[4Hockey4]

Originally Posted by premier3is

Anyone recall when this thread used to be Q&A for officers and no back and forth essays and arguing? No? Ok maybe it's just me... lol

or unwarranted comments about unwarranted essays...ahh those were the days.

[UncleWede]

A man is walking along a sidewalk, comes to a T intersection. As he starts across, a vehicle approaches. He slows, but the car simply pulls a rolling Cali right in front of him.

IF he throws a rock, is it self defense?

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

A man is walking along a sidewalk, comes to a T intersection. As he starts across, a vehicle approaches. He slows, but the car simply pulls a rolling Cali right in front of him.

IF he throws a rock, is it self defense?

Probably be best not to have authority figures have to make that determination...my suggestion is that after throwing said rock, the man, having slowed down, immediately switches to high gear and books it off the scene.

I've always found that when doing something questionable, it is even better if persons of authority aren't aware of it in order to make a determination.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

A man is walking along a sidewalk, comes to a T intersection. As he starts across, a vehicle approaches. He slows, but the car simply pulls a rolling Cali right in front of him.

IF he throws a rock, is it self defense?

Nope. It's a 23110 CVC violation.


...but the driver is also guilty of either running a stop sign, a violation of 22450(a) CVC or failing to stop for a red light, a violation of 21453(insert subsection) CVC......whichever is applicable.

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Nope. It's a 23110 CVC violation.

I don't know what that is, I'm not going to look it up either, I'm just going to go with my gut here and say that I think you are being a party pooper.

And also mention that you are probably proving my point about it being better that authority figures are not present (along with you - you can have one or the other, but detrimental to have both parties there) to make a determination on questionable actions you undertake.

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Nope. It's a 23110 CVC violation.


...but the driver is also guilty of either running a stop sign, a violation of 22450(a) CVC or failing to stop for a red light, a violation of 21453(insert subsection) CVC......whichever is applicable.

Where's the failure to yield to pedestrian And how could I-err, the man, be guilty of a vehicle code violation while walking

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Where's the failure to yield to pedestrian And how could I-err, the man, be guilty of a vehicle code violation while walking

Assuming there's a crosswalk, there's the possibility of failing to yield to a pedestrian in a crosswalk, a violation of 21950(a) CVC, but pedestrians don't always have the right of way, hence the jaywalking citations (...21955 CVC). Pedestrians are subject to CVC laws just the same as vehicles.

[rwheels]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Assuming there's a crosswalk, there's the possibility of failing to yield to a pedestrian in a crosswalk, a violation of 21950(a) CVC, but pedestrians don't always have the right of way, hence the jaywalking citations (...21955 CVC). Pedestrians are subject to CVC laws just the same as vehicles. And easier to catch

JK

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by rwheels

JK

Ehhhhh! These gangsters that flee on foot aren't the easiest to catch, especially with "friendlies" in the area. They can cover blocks very quickly.

[rwheels]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Ehhhhh! These gangsters that flee on foot aren't the easiest to catch, especially with "friendlies" in the area. They can cover blocks very quickly.

Yeah, I figured as much; especially in congested traffic where you can't just leave your car anywhere to chase someone.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by rwheels

Yeah, I figured as much; especially in congested traffic where you can't just leave your car anywhere to chase someone.

I try my best to avoid foot pursuits and if a vehicle pursuit starts to get out of hand I will back off (...entirely dependent on what I'm chasing).

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Assuming there's a crosswalk,

There was a time, where in CA any intersection had an IMPLIED crosswalk?

Last night I was just walking da hood. Residential street T-intersection, no jaywalking involved.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

There was a time, where in CA any intersection had an IMPLIED crosswalk?

Last night I was just walking da hood. Residential street T-intersection, no jaywalking involved.

Marked or unmarked crosswalk considered, the pedestrian could still be cited for 23110 CVC if they decide to throw something at that vehicle.

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Marked or unmarked crosswalk considered, the pedestrian could still be cited for 23110 CVC if they decide to throw something at that vehicle.

Oh, sure. If I happen to drive towards an officer randomly jaywalking, I get charged with ADW. But some ped, just minding his own business, taking a nice little stroll after dinner gets clipped, and in self defense tries to get a rampaging driver's attention, and you throw 23110 at him

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Oh, sure. If I happen to drive towards an officer randomly jaywalking, I get charged with ADW. But some ped, just minding his own business, taking a nice little stroll after dinner gets clipped, and in self defense tries to get a rampaging driver's attention, and you throw 23110 at him

Lol! I would have to articulate intent to get that ADW.

[cmyx6go]

I'll just leave this here.

https://nypost.com/2021/04/07/nypd-o...-coney-island/

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

I'll just leave this here.

https://nypost.com/2021/04/07/nypd-o...-coney-island/

I would never leaving anything in my car that might identify me as a police officer. Hell, my vehicles were all registered to the street address of police stn so it couldn't be traced back to my home address.

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by Murf993

I would never leaving anything in my car that might identify me as a police officer. Hell, my vehicles were all registered to the street address of police stn so it couldn't be traced back to my home address.

Most of the precincts here are in very congested areas. Parking is designated for police vehicles only, which includes their personal vehicles which are identified by a placard.