[12nine]

Originally Posted by godunovs65

Question. Is it safe to assume that the S58 engine build in Austria is identical to that that had been previously built in Germany?

Why should they be different? They just moved the whole production and did not design new engines.

[azuki]

will G87 get LCI on 4/25 same date as G42?

[E46forthewin01]

G2x 07/24 phev will get a bigger battery, i hope.

[hooked]

Originally Posted by weingarm

I would hope you'd be right in that BMW would adopt the re-worked manual transmission from the 2024 Z4 into the 2025 M2/M3/M4. However we all know that would entail significant engineering/testing (not to mention cost) that BMW would likely NOT want to do.

I would guess the current 6MT (same shifter/bushings, etc) that we have in the M2/M3/M4 will transfer verbatim into the 2025 models. Too bad they couldn't have done this manual trans engineering work BEFORE the G80/G82/G87 came to market.

You are probably right, but if the Z4 got one for its LCI, I'm hopeful they will see that success (fingers crossed the manual Z4 sells better) and take a harder look at their other manuals. Feel like BMW has been "mailing them in" reluctantly and it took Toyota (of all companies) to get their attention! My son's 30K Honda Civic Si has a better stick than most BMWs and it shouldn't be that way.

[godunovs65]

Originally Posted by hooked

You are probably right, but if the Z4 got one for its LCI, I'm hopeful they will see that success (fingers crossed the manual Z4 sells better) and take a harder look at their other manuals. Feel like BMW has been "mailing them in" reluctantly and it took Toyota (of all companies) to get their attention! My son's 30K Honda Civic Si has a better stick than most BMWs and it shouldn't be that way.

What year is his Civic Si? I had a 2000 Acura Integra which is the same as Civic Si for over a decade. I was also considering a BMW 323, but ended up with the Integra because it was more affordable at the time. 323 had a more refined manual transmission. After that decade, I got an Infiniti G37 with manual, which I chose over 335 AWD with manual, also because of affordability, but they had pretty similar stick feeling. I drove the new Integra with manual and the new M2, 3, and 4 6MT. No comparison. M wins.

[hooked]

Originally Posted by godunovs65

What year is his Civic Si? I had a 2000 Acura Integra which is the same as Civic Si for over a decade. I was also considering a BMW 323, but ended up with the Integra because it was more affordable at the time. 323 had a more refined manual transmission. After that decade, I got an Infiniti G37 with manual, which I chose over 335 AWD with manual, also because of affordability, but they had pretty similar stick feeling. I drove the new Integra with manual and the new M2, 3, and 4 6MT. No comparison. M wins.

His car is a 2022 I think. Latest gen. Great car for 30K although FWD is a deal breaker for me. I have not driven the Integra version to compare but I drive his car 2-3 times a week to keep it running while he's away at college.

I test drove a 335 AWD stick when they came out and although the stick was pretty good, the AWD felt clunky to me compared to the RWD version. The xDrive has gotten so much more "out of the way" than the original version they grafted into the 3er.

[sharpmoney]

Originally Posted by azuki

will G87 get LCI on 4/25 same date as G42?

if so then 8/24 to 4/25 is a really short model year for '25 the G87, can anyone confirm? update with power and "cosmetic" options just to LCI it 8 months later.

[godunovs65]

Question: Does LCI always start with a new Model Year or can it be introduced in the middle of a MY? Basically, will this M4 LCI be the beginning of MY25?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by sharpmoney

if so then 8/24 to 4/25 is a really short model year for '25 the G87, can anyone confirm? update with power and "cosmetic" options just to LCI it 8 months later.

You must be new to the brand.

[Game]

Originally Posted by godunovs65

Question: Does LCI always start with a new Model Year or can it be introduced in the middle of a MY? Basically, will this M4 LCI be the beginning of MY25?

Sure will. MY25 begins production in March.

[sharpmoney]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

You must be new to the brand.

i’ve only had one bmw, i will be watching this thread closely. hopefully you can hint (like you did w the G20) whether waiting 8 extra months for the ‘26 LCI will be worth it, after i’ve already held out for the power bump and new colors.

[godunovs65]

Originally Posted by Game

Sure will. MY25 begins production in March.

Thanks! Do you know when they update the online configurator for the new M4 colors and options by any chance?

[Game]

Originally Posted by godunovs65

Thanks! Do you know when they update the online configurator for the new M4 colors and options by any chance?

I haven't heard of any new colors for the M3/M4. I'd assume the reveal of the LCI should be this month followed by the site builder update in February.

[godunovs65]

Originally Posted by Game

I haven't heard of any new colors for the M3/M4. I'd assume the reveal of the LCI should be this month followed by the site builder update in February.

Thanks! I am surprised the frozen grey is offered on M3 and not on M4.

[sharpmoney]

wish dravit grey would be offered on the G87 instead of skyscraper

[godunovs65]

Originally Posted by sharpmoney

wish dravit grey would be offered on the G87 instead of skyscraper

They can still add it in 2026. That color looks like a luxury sedan, less than a compact sports car. Yet it may look great on an M2. People are strange. Some order Frozen Orange. It's better to have choices than to have Henry Ford's palette of available colors.

[Game]

So is there a G60 550e xDrive coming to the US?

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by godunovs65

They can still add it in 2026. That color looks like a luxury sedan, less than a compact sports car. Yet it may look great on an M2. People are strange. Some order Frozen Orange. It's better to have choices than to have Henry Ford's palette of available colors.

Dravit is a great color. It’s one you need to see in person to appreciate.

[fe7565]

Anyone knows when the new X2 version will hit the US dealerships?

[Game]

Originally Posted by fe7565

Anyone knows when the new X2 version will hit the US dealerships?

Dealers already have their HEA cars in transit. They should be arriving to dealers by the end of this month unless BMW decides to hold them.

[fe7565]

I have been holding off since last summer on buying a used 2018-2022 X2 until the new X comes out. I did not see a lot of selection, probably because many current owners are also waiting for the new model X2 to arrive before trading in. The price for a used 2018-2022 is not bad now, but I hope not only that after the new X2 is here more older X2's will be available to pick from, but also that the price may dip lower fast since there was no new X2 supply for over a year.


Makes sense? Or false strategy? When this year should I try to swoop down for a first gen X2?

[godunovs65]

Originally Posted by NGT2

Dravit is a great color. It’s one you need to see in person to appreciate.

It is great, definitely. I've seen it on an M4. Changes hue dramatically depending on the light conditions. Also, gold flakes are very sparkly in direct sunlight. Exudes luxury