Just saw the finished G87 M2 - My Thoughts & Analysis. + Colors List

GrannyShiftG80 · 10-07-2022, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10"

chances of my only 2 criteria happening?

1. manual
2. 3000 to 3500 lbs (max)

id say chances are close to 0.

Less than 0

SocalBM · 10-07-2022, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10"

chances of my only 2 criteria happening?

1. manual
2. 3000 to 3500 lbs (max)

id say chances are close to 0.

anything over 400hp is already too powerful for me.

997.2 GT3: 3000 pounds, 435hp 6 speed. Go get one and thank me later.

trey100 · 10-07-2022, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allenssmart

I will be getting Toronto Red. There's no point in delaying. With how hard allocations are to come by and the resale values on these, I have no problem with getting a launch m2 and then let's say individual / LCI comes out later I will simply trade in for the same price I paid for and spec a new one

no brainer really

I know we are currently in a weird place with used cars assisted somewhat by the fact that there currently isn't a new M2 to buy but no one should be assuming that this situation will go on indefinitely. Dealers are already offering MSRP on the new car so getting someone to pay more for a used one is a stretch.

HiFi · 10-07-2022, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tag

I bet this is the DIN weight they were referencing and not EU kerb weight which would add 75kg to that number. I also don't believe it's going to weigh 1,650kg, especially since the rep said 'expect about'. Not saying they were lying; just sounds like a rough figure they were given. It's sadly going to be heavier than that. I hope I'm wrong but doubt it.

no, i think you are correct - i believe the (approx) 1650kg is DIN for the manual, with CF roof and carbon buckets (as presented yesterday).

rwemersonrw · 10-07-2022, 06:30 PM

Not only is the new m2 disappointing in appearance it might actually be one of the ugliest cars on the market when it comes out.

Ctothej · 10-07-2022, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwemersonrw

Not only is the new m2 disappointing in appearance it might actually be one of the ugliest cars on the market when it comes out.

Steady. Let's give it a chance..

rwemersonrw · 10-07-2022, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ctothej

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwemersonrw

Not only is the new m2 disappointing in appearance it might actually be one of the ugliest cars on the market when it comes out.

Steady. Let's give it a chance..

Ugh you're right I'll wait

Sedan_Clan · 10-07-2022, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SocalBM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10"

chances of my only 2 criteria happening?

1. manual
2. 3000 to 3500 lbs (max)

id say chances are close to 0.

anything over 400hp is already too powerful for me.

997.2 GT3: 3000 pounds, 435hp 6 speed. Go get one and thank me later.

Exactly!…..but most don't want to pay the price to play in that arena though.

GrannyShiftG80 · 10-07-2022, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trey100

I know we are currently in a weird place with used cars assisted somewhat by the fact that there currently isn't a new M2 to buy but no one should be assuming that this situation will go on indefinitely. Dealers are already offering MSRP on the new car so getting someone to pay more for a used one is a stretch.

maybe not indefinitely but with local M allocation waiting times being minimum 6 months to average of 1 year I doubt this problem will be fixed in 2 years

Game · 10-07-2022, 07:03 PM

I wish I could give negative reputation points every time a Porsche is brought up.

Poochie · 10-07-2022, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teutonic

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I have always like it too, but that doesn't change the historical fact(s) surrounding the 1M. The car was not well received initially.

I totally agree! Never liked the headlamps either as they never had that BMWish look. However, the rest of the front is flowing and overall still looked like a BMW.
This new front is just not a BMW front with such non-BMW headlamps. Now the grills are smaller but boy, are they ugly….

For real, the headlights look like nothing from the BMW lineage and more so something that you would find on a VW Beatle…

Hmm.. 🤔

.

ElHeffe · 10-07-2022, 07:38 PM

Worst first year car experience I had was with the Cadillac ATS. The car was mechanically great but CUE was horribly horribly buggy. They replaced a bunch of stuff in the car and it still had issues. Cadillac eventually offered to buy it back. I know iDrive8 is newish but I'm not terribly worried about any part of the car other than how it looks!

HiFi · 10-07-2022, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwemersonrw

Not only is the new m2 disappointing in appearance it might actually be one of the ugliest cars on the market when it comes out.

I doubt that will be the mass opinion...

ube91 · 10-07-2022, 07:57 PM

I actually rather like the look of the G87. The blocky vents look a lot better than the triangular vents on the M240i. Back end looks fine, but I do wish they used a major traditional taillight look like the ones on the LCI E90, E46 etc. It also has the smaller kidney grilles as opposed to the big snout on the G8x cars.

I wonder if it will have a manual? Definitely will be the last 'small' BMW with a manual.

rwemersonrw · 10-07-2022, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HiFi

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwemersonrw

Not only is the new m2 disappointing in appearance it might actually be one of the ugliest cars on the market when it comes out.

I doubt that will be the mass opinion...

I genuinely hope you're right!

EDWYER · 10-07-2022, 07:59 PM

More I look, now I'm finding the front looking odd too.

ElHeffe · 10-07-2022, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDWYER

More I look, now I'm finding the front looking odd too.

It should look better in darker colors. It helps hide the ugly.

M-Azing · 10-07-2022, 08:33 PM

Hi all, can someone photoshop this car in black, that May fix many of the styling issues.

corbinwilliams · 10-07-2022, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j23

So no one ever has a backup phone? Do you actually get frisked on the way in?

I saw the XM in person in SoCal last month about 3 weeks be it was “unveiled” and yeah, they only let a few people in at a time and there’s really no way to sneak a pic unless you wanted to be removed from the event and barred from future events. You enter through a metal detector, they don’t allow phones, hats, bags, purses or even Apple Watches… The XM also looks much better and beefier in person than it comes across in the photos BMW posted. I hated all the XM leaks but seeing it in person changed my opinion a little

Sedan_Clan · 10-07-2022, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Game

I wish I could give negative reputation points every time a Porsche is brought up.

Lol! A lot of people would be affected since everybody wants BMW to be Porsche…….

……without paying Porsche money. Go figure!

PLF69 · 10-07-2022, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Lol! A lot of people would be affected since everybody wants BMW to be Porsche…….

……without paying Porsche money. Go figure!

It never was this close than this generation (leaving the weight argument out) that's the only way I can explain how used G8x are keeping such a great used value vs F series that at least in my area plummeted back to there 2020 prices.

Yes there is a % about supply and demand but just take the G83 for exemple, nothing equivalent comes close to it at its price point. The G8x value/performance/quality ratio is very very good.

Sedan_Clan · 10-07-2022, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PLF69

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Lol! A lot of people would be affected since everybody wants BMW to be Porsche…….

……without paying Porsche money. Go figure!

It never was this close than this generation (leaving the weight argument out) that's the only way I can explain how used G8x are keeping such a great used value vs F series that at least in my area plummeted back to there 2020 prices.

Yes there is a % about supply and demand but just take the G83 for exemple, nothing equivalent comes close to it at its price point. The G8x value/performance/quality ratio is very very good.

I agree. BMW is very good at balancing/prioritizing those metrics.

10-07-2022, 06:30 PM	#181
rwemersonrw Lieutenant 549 Rep 444 Posts Drives: BMW M2 Competition, Acura TSX Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: new york iTrader: (0)	Not only is the new m2 disappointing in appearance it might actually be one of the ugliest cars on the market when it comes out.
	Appreciate 1 Teutonic2749.50 Quote

10-07-2022, 07:03 PM	#186
Game ------ 8130 Rep 10,607 Posts Drives: G80 LCI, G87 (sold) Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Chicago'ish iTrader: (25)	I wish I could give negative reputation points every time a Porsche is brought up. __________________
	Appreciate 4 pizza2401137.50 Sethhboii1325.50 Davil6902.00 ScullyD5186.50 Quote

10-07-2022, 07:38 PM	#188
ElHeffe Second Lieutenant 188 Rep 220 Posts Drives: Many Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Ohio iTrader: (0)	Worst first year car experience I had was with the Cadillac ATS. The car was mechanically great but CUE was horribly horribly buggy. They replaced a bunch of stuff in the car and it still had issues. Cadillac eventually offered to buy it back. I know iDrive8 is newish but I'm not terribly worried about any part of the car other than how it looks!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-07-2022, 07:57 PM	#190
ube91 Enlisted Member 82 Rep 36 Posts Drives: 1991 318i, 2019 M2C, 2000 Z3M Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Orlando, Florida iTrader: (0)	I actually rather like the look of the G87. The blocky vents look a lot better than the triangular vents on the M240i. Back end looks fine, but I do wish they used a major traditional taillight look like the ones on the LCI E90, E46 etc. It also has the smaller kidney grilles as opposed to the big snout on the G8x cars. I wonder if it will have a manual? Definitely will be the last 'small' BMW with a manual. Last edited by ube91; 10-07-2022 at 08:02 PM..
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-07-2022, 07:59 PM	#192
EDWYER Yoda of mods 1698 Rep 3,007 Posts Drives: X5 RWD Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: NC iTrader: (40) Garage List 2015 X5 RWD [10.00] 2016 BMW M2 [10.00]	More I look, now I'm finding the front looking odd too. __________________ Current: 2020 Explorer ST (Agate Black Metallic) F15 SGM RWD (retired) Bone stock F87 AW (retired) F30 SBM 316rwhp/440rwtq (retired) Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/EdwyerCLT YT: https://www.youtube.com/@DWYERGARAGE/videos
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-07-2022, 08:33 PM	#194
M-Azing Antonito 20 Rep 40 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: May 2011 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Hi all, can someone photoshop this car in black, that May fix many of the styling issues.
	Appreciate 0 Quote