[LVI]

Originally Posted by dgm3

I though the same but eventually found out it's actually worse in the flesh than in the pics. Some rear and front pics taken close to the ground are good. But when you are standing near the car your view angle is quite different and then IMO the rear especially looks terrible. Very aggressive design but not flowing.
If you like the E36 design I think it is very difficult to be attracted by the G87. IMO only the E46 M3 design was able to combine purity and (some ) aggressivity.

Exhibit A - When estrogen levels peak and we're comparing 20 and 30yr old designs with a 2023 M car release and subsequently whine about decreased "purity" and "agressivity".

[curtdragon]

Honestly if you don't see lots of cues from the E30 in the G87 you need your eyes checked. The side profile is near identical but yes the front and rear or more modern. Show me a BMW that has headlights or taillights from 10 years ago.

[dgm3]

Originally Posted by curtdragon

Honestly if you don't see lots of cues from the E36 in the G87 you need your eyes checked. The side profile is near identical but yes the front and rear or more modern. Show me a BMW that has headlights or taillights from 10 years ago.

E30 yes... E36 no

[curtdragon]

Originally Posted by dgm3

E30 yes... E36 no

Yes. Fixed. I'll never get an E30. This will do lol

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Game

This might be the first non-official BMW video we've seen with the car actually in motion. Hopefully more on the way.

Reposting...I assume that is BG in the video?

[Lex Templar]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Reposting...I assume that is BG in the video?

Sure is, same car from motor show and first post in thread.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Lex Templar

Sure is, same car from motor show.

Thx...think I am changing to BG.

[dominoM]

Originally Posted by dgm3

If you like the E36 design I think it is very difficult to be attracted by the G87. IMO only the E46 M3 design was able to combine purity and (some ) aggressivity.

I had an E36 M3 for 10 years. Loved that car. But that was 20 years ago. I don't live in the past. I really like the G87 design and the full M tech.

[Caerus]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Thx...think I am changing to BG.

I was a staunch supporter of ZB until I saw it in person at BMW PC reveal. My order changed to BG, which was my second choice for my G42 and Portimao Blue first. PB is much better than ZB, so it would be hard for me to step down.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Caerus

I was a staunch supporter of ZB until I saw it in person at BMW PC reveal. My order changed to BG, which was my second choice for my G42 and Portimao Blue first. PB is much better than ZB, so it would be hard for me to step down.

Same, ZB was my first choice but too many of the pics and people's accounts have swayed me awsy. I love Porsche's Chalk and Audi's Nardo Gray, so BG it is. And will be perfect for the rims I want to get (Vossen CG205T in merlot).

My '23 M240 is in TNM.

[stefan]

Originally Posted by Sethhboii

Biggest facts. Don’t like it? Don’t buy it. No one cares what you think lol.

I feel like whenever someone comes out with some edgy comment defending it that they may want to remember this is a discussion forum mainly populated by people who come from a different era of BMW design (an era of restraint and functional design). As for who is insecure.. Nobody is saying YOU made a bad decision. Keep that in mind.

As for the design, I'd love to hear someone defend the inconceivably bizarre gloss black reflector chunks on the rear. Didn't see those on the "e30".

[Sethhboii]

Originally Posted by stefan

I feel like whenever someone comes out with some edgy comment defending it that they may want to remember this is a discussion forum mainly populated by people who come from a different era of BMW design. As for who is insecure.. Nobody is saying YOU made a bad decision. Keep that in mind.

That’s literally not the point. I don’t care who does and doesn’t buy a car. You have people who spam these pages with negativity and it is literal garbage. You can click the people’s post where they spam the same comment 😭😂. Don’t take it personal

[CodeSlinger]

Originally Posted by stefan

As for the design, I'd love to hear someone defend the inconceivably bizarre gloss black reflector chunks on the rear. Didn't see those on the "e30".

What part are you referring to? If it's the vertical reflectors below the taillights, I much prefer the more intentional, aggressive approach on the G87 that encapsulates both the reflector and the reverse sensor to the blobby F87 rear bumper.

[ronin13013]

Usually an F87 owner who should be over there Having a bad day ends up over here.

Originally Posted by Sethhboii

That’s literally not the point. I don’t care who does and doesn’t buy a car. You have people who spam these pages with negativity and it is literal garbage. You can click the people’s post where they spam the same comment 😭😂. Don’t take it personal

[zero21]

Originally Posted by stefan

I feel like whenever someone comes out with some edgy comment defending it that they may want to remember this is a discussion forum mainly populated by people who come from a different era of BMW design (an era of restraint and functional design). As for who is insecure.. Nobody is saying YOU made a bad decision. Keep that in mind.

As for the design, I'd love to hear someone defend the inconceivably bizarre gloss black reflector chunks on the rear. Didn't see those on the "e30".

Well, they also didn't have cameras...and the new one is a technology powerhouse. So yeah, that.

[stefan]

Originally Posted by Sethhboii

That’s literally not the point. I don’t care who does and doesn’t buy a car. You have people who spam these pages with negativity and it is literal garbage. You can click the people’s post where they spam the same comment 😭😂. Don’t take it personal

I obviously don't. Then again I don't call opposing viewpoints on a discussion board "literal garbage". Maybe admins should stop f8x posts hitting the front page so those with a deposit can avoid being upset by discussions on what is, by any objective metric, a step change and highly polarizing design. Glad you love it.

[zero21]

Originally Posted by stefan

I obviously don't. Then again I don't call opposing viewpoints on a discussion board "literal garbage". Maybe admins should stop f8x posts hitting the front page so those with a deposit can avoid being upset by discussions on what is, by any objective metric, a step change and highly polarizing design. Glad you love it.

What is this "objective" metric you speak of?

I believe you meant G8x? I think the design is more polarizing than it should be because of the beaver tooth precedent.

[dominoM]

Originally Posted by stefan

As for the design, I'd love to hear someone defend the inconceivably bizarre gloss black reflector chunks on the rear. Didn't see those on the "e30".

I don't get it. The f87 and g80/2 have similar little vertical reflectors on the rear quarters, as do other models. Are they more pronounced on the g87? Yep. But it's not like this is the first BMW that has it. Heck I'm surprised folks haven't criticized the rooftop antenna yet.

[curtdragon]

Originally Posted by dominoM

I don't get it. The f87 and g80/2 have similar little vertical reflectors on the rear quarters, as do other models. Are they more pronounced on the g87? Yep. But it's not like this is the first BMW that has it. Heck I'm surprised folks haven't criticized the rooftop antenna yet.

WTH dude I didn't notice the antenna until you said something lol

[selena110]

With its compact dimensions, inline-6-cylinder engine, manual gearbox, rear-wheel drive and an advanced operating concept, the BMW M2 Coupé is the ultimate .

[M2PDX]

Originally Posted by dgm3

E30 yes... E36 no

Really? They both have the same square, blocky front end design (which, by the way, was not universally popular back in the day).

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by M2PDX

Really? They both have the same square, blocky front end design (which, by the way, was not universally popular back in the day).

Why is this being cross posted?