[T_U_D]

Well, clearly I was forewarned about the Throttle House review. Nothing more to add that already has not already been said.

[robopp]

Big ole’ fat small car with questionable design…. BMW really doesn’t want me to buy one.

[ScottyK329]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

most reviews seem kinda 'meh'. joe achilles thinks every bmw is nice so i could care less what he thinks

throttle house, car magazine, and straight pipes all bagged on the looks. throttle house didn't really like the car much at all. more grip / less fun. would not recommend. most reviews said the f87cs was better.

only positive i'm seeing is that its interior is better than the outgoing model.

and its got cast wheels ?? wtf

Throttle house was pretty biased because he was an prior m2 owner. Some people don't like change / progress.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by ronin13013

Lol! Matt Fara or how ever you say it hates it too. Quite interesting!!
Very visceral. lol!!

The Smoking Tire, Matt Farrah, G87 review goes live Monday.

[StickyPickle]

Honestly the TH review is getting so much discussion in here not only because it was by far the most negative but because they have the most YT subscribers out of the journalists who’ve released a review so far. Carwow, Top Gear, etc. have way more subscribers so it’ll be interesting to see those.

[ronin13013]

His cohost hates it too. Crazy. I come from a pretty conservative M generation. Yet I like it. Go figure.

Originally Posted by T_U_D

The Smoking Tire, Matt Farrah, G87 review goes live Monday.

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by donm527

That's why I posted elsewhere I am curious what the gearing is on the M4 and how it compares to M2. That's why it's only a guess. You'd think they just drop the same transmission with same gears right even if the engine is slightly detuned.

The gearing is exactly the same.

[JEM3]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

After watching a couple of these, I'm so so happy that I've got the manual F87CS

I'm praying that a G87 M2CS comes out and knocks it out of the park.

Otherwise, I'll be sad that I never pulled the trigger on a F87 M2CS.

[dominoM]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

Well, I have pretty much watched everyone’s review, but Throttle House. So, I went over to watch it and my observation so far other than what has previously been mentioned, is that it looks great in TR or at least it does on my 65” LED TV via the latest Apple 4K TV.

THIS!! My fav part of the TH review was the awesome footage of the M2 in TR.

[BimmerFix]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

Well, I have pretty much watched everyone’s review, but Throttle House. So, I went over to watch it and my observation so far other than what has previously been mentioned, is that it looks great in TR or at least it does on my 65” LED TV via the latest Apple 4K TV.

You might feel different seeing it on my OLED TV To be fair I think TR looks decent

But BMW should have either gone full red or full orange. Toronto is deinitely somewhere in the middle spectrum

[dominoM]

I get the BMW fan-boy comments and all about Joe Achilles, but he did drive the car the hardest, and he gave the best similarity/difference comparison between the M2 and the M3/4. That was pretty useful. I also appreciate how he is calm and professional and doesn't need to stoop to gimmicks and stupid tricks.

[donm527]

Melbourne Red has my vote. They really should have included the 240i colors.

Originally Posted by BimmerFix

You might feel different seeing it on my OLED TV To be fair I think TR looks decent

But BMW should have either gone full red or full orange. Toronto is deinitely somewhere in the middle spectrum

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by dominoM

THIS!! My fav part of the TH review was the awesome footage of the M2 in TR.

It is pretty good in the ‘Car’ review as well.

Originally Posted by donm527

Melbourne Red has my vote. They really should have included the 240i colors.

I actually prefer Melbourne Red over Toronto.

[02M3ForMe]

Originally Posted by dominoM

I get the BMW fan-boy comments and all about Joe Achilles, but he did drive the car the hardest, and he gave the best similarity/difference comparison between the M2 and the M3/4. That was pretty useful. I also appreciate how he is calm and professional and doesn't need to stoop to gimmicks and stupid tricks.

As long as we’re giving kudos to reviewers, shout out to BMWBLOG for an epic 1 hour upload. Not only was it incredibly detailed and informative, they were one of the few to do a proper back-to-back comparison of the manual and automatic. Also, I loved the advocacy for an xDrive Comp; I definitely am in for one of those.

[baron95]

Motor Trend is saying the M2 is ~100 lbs lighter than the M4.

Where did they get that from?

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...-drive-review/

"About 13 inches shorter, a quarter inch narrower, and roughly 100 pounds lighter than the M4, the new M2 ..."

[Evinrude1975]

Originally Posted by Game

About what we’ll expected minus the Throttle House review.

I also thought the Straight Pipes video was the best of the bunch.



Now we wait for Doug and Matt.

I don’t think they are goin to add more value. I mean, nice to watch them, but their videos are not related to the driving experience

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by mtoosexy

In Thomas from Throttle House's case, I don't think he was being spiteful. Some people really do want less traction and more slip and slide. I am one of em. He was stuck on the feeling his little car gave him and was not in agreement with engineer's take on traction of the new car. I for one am giving second, third and fourth thoughts on whether or not I want this car. A lot of it is based on his comments about how the m2 lost its playfulness.

Shruuug? IMO it's not really *bad* to start with a precise and planted platform. It's *relatively* easy to adjust tires and suspension afterwards to make it tail happy, if that's what you want*. If you want it to happily swap ends like a mid-engine car, then sure, granted, it's not that.

*disclaimer: "tossability" means different things to different people, so interpreting this as 'ability to induce and control oversteer using throttle'. Apologies if you mean something else.

[cmgbk75]

“The new Zandvoort Blue paint job gets a silver medal to BMW's Thundernight Metallic purple (which is only available on the M2 through BMW Individual). At the same time, the smoked-out 3D taillights look epic between the subtle lip spoiler and quad exhaust tips.”

I wish Motor1.

To me, the actual journalist print reviews have proven a better use of my time, except Horatiu’s informative review.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by dominoM

THIS!! My fav part of the TH review was the awesome footage of the M2 in TR.

I decided that the TR is the colour I like the most from several of the videos, I quite like the orange tones in bright sunlight. It does seem to be a colour that changes tone a lot, depending on lighting.

[Game]

Originally Posted by aerobod

CAR Magazine is the premier UK print magazine, Ben Barry’s video is already in the list. My opinion is that CAR is a far better publication from an enthusiast perspective than any North American magazine. They were one of the few publications that had track time with the pre-prod M2s back in June last year.

My first time watching him but I was impressed by the quality of their cinematography.

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by CodeSlinger

Literally only they said the preferred the auto. Every other video and article i saw was them talking up the manual, so not sure I'd put too much stock in that lol

Honestly, the manual in the M2 CS wasn’t really that great and these reviewers loved it (clutch was overly light, and it was rubbery enough that you could botch a 2-3 shift and grab and 5th). But the transmission was good for a BMW and had some carbon bits to improve shift feel. The engine was well calibrated to the transmission as well.

With that in mind, watching these reviews, I wouldn’t buy this car in manual. I also probably wouldn’t buy this car at all and have an auto G8x M3/M4 variant instead.

[Squidget]

So far, the reviews are mostly what I expected them to be. The car seems to be what I want. Oversimplified: "a FE-RWD 6MT daily drive sports car that is precise, good at cornering; that I can afford and fit stuff into (4 seats, trunk)."

I really don't care if a turbo motor lugs badly when it's in the WRONG gear. God gave us 6 gears for a reason. It's a weird thing to get overly concerned about, isn't it?

TBF, I'm not a 0-60 guy. I care more that I can pivot this car into corners with confidence, hit the apexes, not get thrown by elevation changes, and exit clean. Especially on uneven public roads. It seems good at that, like its CLAR siblings.

The only thing that I'm worried about is conflicting opinions on electric steering feel and the front end responsiveness. But on that score, I'll probably need to see for myself.