05-02-2023, 06:33 PM | #2157 |
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I don't know AOC but that claim is plain stupid. It's like the mayan calendar 2012 thing ie until 2012 came how could anyone in 2010 really prove that it was utter bs though most sensible people knew it.
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05-02-2023, 06:34 PM | #2158 | |
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While I don't question the levels of human stupidity... I still doubt anything is going to happen come 2035 or whatever. Big hoopla over nothing. Either the mandate will go away as soooo much political crap does and no one will even remember it or the grid will grow over the next decade to support it. My guess is some combination of both. The ICE ban will most likely go away AND EV sales will increase forcing upgrades to the grid. Remember when the world was going to end in 2000? |
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As for cost, as I said, you can plop hydrogen pumps at existing gas stations which is a fraction the cost of building a whole new facility. That is what most hydrogen stations are in California - a hydrogen pump at an existing gas station. And that cost of building a "charging station" is way exaggerated. It is only thousands because that one charging station can charge only a few cars. Plus hydrogen can be produced on site with solar power, there's no need to hook up to the power grid! For example, Say it costs $100k to build a "charging station" aka a single charger, that charging station can charge maybe 2 cars an hour? Say a hydrogen station is $1M, that's 10x more. That single pump can fill up 30-40 cars an hour. That is still cheaper than the charging station and way more efficient at dispensing fuel/charging.
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Let's go elon with more V4 superchargers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No one will catch up to sir elon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I won't need to let you know. Time will.
2028-2030 is the holy shit it's really gonna happen moment. 2035 is holy fuck i can't believe it happened moment. On ze move!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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05-02-2023, 08:54 PM | #2166 | |
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Also filling a hydrogen car is not like pumping gas at all. I saw a video of some guy showing how to fill up a hydrogen car. It's significantly slower than gas, not as slow as electric, but definitely not as simple as gas. It seems more like filling propane than pumping gas and I don't know any place that lets you fill your own propane. However it doesn't really matter at this point IMO. Betamax had better quality than VHS. However it still lost out. Once VHS became widely adopted betamax was done. Point being maybe hydrogen could be more efficient, maybe it could be cheaper, maybe more manufacturers will make hydrogen cars which would increase the likelihood of places investing in hydrogen stations... but it's not right now and BEVs now have a massive head start. Maybe some company in the future will do what Tesla did for BEVs and dump a bunch of money into building hydrogen cars and the infrastructure to support them (with gov help) but until that day I just don't see hydrogen taking off. Maybe they will coexist. Dunno, but certainly not on at the top of my list of shit to worry about. |
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Not to mention, SUPER dangerous to handle.
The shit will never work. BEV all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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https://www.bmwgroup.com/en/news/gen...5Hydrogen.html
BMW iX5 Hydrogen with lithium-ion technology, the powertrain of this vehicle brings maximum output of 295 kW / 401 hp to the road. In drive and brake phases, this electric machine also takes on the function of a generator that feeds power back into a high-performance battery. Together, they hold six kilograms of hydrogen, giving the BMW iX5 Hydrogen a range of 504 km in the WLTP cycle. Refuelling the hydrogen tanks takes only three to four minutes, meaning that the BMW iX5 Hydrogen delivers the driving pleasure you expect from BMW with just a few, short interim stops, even on long routes. |
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05-03-2023, 06:17 AM | #2169 |
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Lucid for the win. My God it’s not even close. This will be my first EV for sure. Honestly, I feel a little silly for not paying better attention. This thing is luxurious, more horsepower, better looking, better range, and faster charging then Tesla. Then any EV. And don’t even get into the materials they use because it’s not really even fair to compare them. I’ve made no secret of the fact that I love Elon Musk mostly for what he did with Twitter, but he better start making some changes. He needs to use better materials and add back some buttons. He also needs to make his system, android, and Apple friendly.
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JD Powers survey, growing number of those polled are adamant they won't buy an EV
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I was being TIC...If we believe we'll all be able to go bev by 2035 we also have to believe in hydrogen. Can't be selectively stupid. |
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05-03-2023, 06:10 PM | #2174 | |
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Unfortunately all their models are in the $100k+ range. If they had something to compete with the Model 3 and Y I would be all over it. Then again at that price point you also get the Tycan, although IMO at least on paper the Tycan specs just aren't up to par with the Lucid or Model S unless you go way over $100k. But IMO it's the nicest looking one. |
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05-03-2023, 06:22 PM | #2176 |
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I have noticed a trend lately where a lot of cars have what I call old man design cues. I can't quite describe it but some parts just have this old man car look to them. I have noticed it a lot in Hyundais and Genesis also. These weird oval steering wheels just kinda give me the heebeegeebees. Same with the puckered up rear ends Hyundai and Genesis seem to like. The trend of bar lights also... sometimes it can look good, but some times they just give me old man vibes. Dunno.
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