[robopp]

Originally Posted by DSTR

Well said. Lets not prioritize a person/family etc over a car that is still being made lol!

Who said this? Wtf are you talking about?

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by robopp

I’m aware. I stated the same in my original quesion and you’re missing the point of the question - if the oil cooler gets dinged it doesn’t mean the engine grenades assuming you shut it down the second you get a warning. I never said the OP shouldn’t have done what he did. I’d do the same thing. I was simply asking a BMW tech his thoughts on this scenario.

Then you need to ask a BMW tech, not here.

We're all speculating here. In many cars the engine warning light is a sign of critical low pressure. Some cars are fine if they just show the light. I know of many cars that once that light is on, it's too late.

My guess in the BMW is the rate in which the oil is lost. Say you lose 1 litre per minute, you're likely safe if you see the light and shut it off immediately. If you're at high load/rpm and your oil pressure is high, and your puncture is large, your rate of oil loss is larger, so the engine might run out of oil completely more quickly, at which rate you're done.

I don't think there's a one-size-fits-all scenario here. In OP's case, we don't know because he had to drive. If you're close to idling in a city street and see the light, and your rate of loss is lower, and you shut the car off, you have greater chances of keeping the engine.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by robopp

I’m aware. I stated the same in my original quesion and you’re missing the point of the question - if the oil cooler gets dinged it doesn’t mean the engine grenades assuming you shut it down the second you get a warning. I never said the OP shouldn’t have done what he did. I’d do the same thing. I was simply asking a BMW tech his thoughts on this scenario.

Shutting down the engine immediately is critical but the only way to know if any engine damage occurred is to get a sample of the remaining oil when draining the pan and send it in for analysis and also check the oil filter for any metal. In addition, request a compression check be performed on the engine.

I'd take this one step further; I'd be under the car with the techs when get the sample and even get a sample of oil for myself to send in for independent analysis. I'd also be there when they perform the compression test. But that's just me, I trust no one when the stakes are this big.

[CSBM5]

Originally Posted by robopp

And M340 too

That is only if you order the cooling and high performance tire package...then the additional downward facing oil cooler is added. The vast majority of M340i's do not have that package. Prior to ordering new, I followed the used M340i market for months, and maybe 1 out of 100 cars had that package. We just ordered and bought a 2024 M340i and spec'd out the M adaptive suspension and wheels (which included raised speed limiter) from that package but specifically didn't order the package due to the oil cooler issue (car isn't going to be tracked, so it's not needed...have an M3 and M2C for that).

[robopp]

Originally Posted by CSBM5

That is only if you order the cooling and high performance tire package...then the additional downward facing oil cooler is added. The vast majority of M340i's do not have that package. Prior to ordering new, I followed the used M340i market for months, and maybe 1 out of 100 cars had that package. We just ordered and bought a 2024 M340i and spec'd out the M adaptive suspension and wheels (which included raised speed limiter) from that package but specifically didn't order the package due to the oil cooler issue (car isn't going to be tracked, so it's not needed...have an M3 and M2C for that).

Interesting the take rate is so low. We optioned it with our M340.

[KC87ZB]

Originally Posted by Tag

OP said he was "...in a construction zone with no shoulders to pull over, had to drive to an exit(0.5miles). And I was doing 60mph when the failure happened."

He had two choices, risk personal safety and pull over in a construction zone blocking a lane or get off on the next exit. He did the later and I would have done the same. Cars are replaceable.

I need to ensure I was clear on something. My response was specific to the warning indication question, I am not throwing any shade on the OP. I would have done exactly the same.

As a separate item, I don't think BimmerLink can generate alarms off sensor values. Will be checking and reaching out to BimmerLink - could be a possible help..

[turnsignalslol]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

I have the CSF performance oil cooler installed on my build (yes, its for the G8X family of cars).

Did you switch over to the CSF from your mishimoto oil cooler? I looked at the prices and a new csf oil cooler is only a little bit more than a skid plate from Mishimoto and the latter has built in protection which kind of makes it a no brainer when chasing power.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by turnsignalslol

Did you switch over to the CSF from your mishimoto oil cooler? I looked at the prices and a new csf oil cooler is only a little bit more than a skid plate from Mishimoto and the latter has built in protection which kind of makes it a no brainer when chasing power.

The CSF is an upgrade over the OEM as part of my build for Stage 2 tune. Still utilizing the Mishi skid plate.

[turnsignalslol]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

The CSF is an upgrade over the OEM as part of my build for Stage 2 tune. Still utilizing the Mishi skid plate.

Oh I see, I thought you were using a Mishimoto oil cooler for your g87.

[Tag]

It's crazy how common this shit is, start watching @2m13s.

[DSTR]

Originally Posted by Tag

It's crazy how common this shit is, start watching @2m13s.

Utterly common and is cheap SHIT engineering. No other reason. Bean counting at its BMW finest.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by Tag

It's crazy how common this shit is, start watching @2m13s.

My wife's X3MC has pretty exposed radiators. I've installed Zunsport screens on the fronts, but it has the same horizontal oil cooler. Her oil cooler has several areas where it's obviously been hit by rocks/debris. Nobody makes a screen for it yet.

[M2siast]

Find me a car that doesn’t have exposed radiators, from any make. Then it’ll be news…

[KC87ZB]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Find me a car that doesn’t have exposed radiators, from any make. Then it’ll be news…

Most new EV's

[two_three_two]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Find me a car that doesn’t have exposed radiators, from any make. Then it’ll be news…

as i walk around my work lot, i notice the VAG cars tend to have better protection on the radiators/intercoolers than BMW or MINIs. Ive noticed the MINIs basically have zero from what i can tell. subaru of course has been putting them under the hood for a long long time..

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by KC87ZB

Most new EV's

Although many (including Teslas) have a front mounted radiator for battery cooling, although more sized like an oil cooler.

[Drowsy]

Wow, I just binged this entire thread and let me tell you. I went through 7 phases of "oh shit, ok good news, damn wtf, ahh hes fucked, ooh some hope, and then He beat the case". Congrats on your new vehicle and hopefully you got paid for the free advertisement cause I just ordered my skid plate. Especially with my car being lowered now I am more wary from driving home.

[anthemavm]

Originally Posted by turnsignalslol

Had a close call with a rogue piece of wood drifting over to my lane on the highway and me running over it because I didn't see it. If I didn't have my Mishimoto skidplate it could have cooked the oil cooler and potentially the engine as well. If you haven't already, I'd 100% recommend going for one of the various options on the market. I chose Mishimoto and have absolutely zero regrets and am glad I got it before anything bad could happen.

https://youtu.be/xTQbfsDEQyc

Sucks how much junk we have on the socal freeways. They are just finishing a big five year project on the 405 and hope maybe we see less debris on the road.

[davidmct-M3]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

This is not meant to reduce the empathy for the OP or anyone else who may face these issues (whether oil cooler or radiator damage) however its not like BMW didn't do any R&D on this car, the G Series M cars or any other cars you want to throw into the mix.

Plenty of research was done in multiple locations and under multiple conditions. Unfortunately, shit happens. Its not like 90% of these cars are coming in with damage. These are truly isolated incidents (considering the number of cars in circulation around the world). I am not blaming any driver but its not always an unavoidable situation. Some people pay no attention and some dont care (I see people launch over speed bumps at 30-40mph as they have no care in the world), they just drive along like driver and the car are invincible (or they want/hope to be). Its Murphys Law at play here, it is what it is.

Those screens are not going to prevent damage causing rocks/debris from doing their damage. Will they stop certain smaller debris, yes, but that smaller debris is not really the killer here. How often do you encounter bouncing rocks? Why you ask, cause unless its a damn huge rocks, how is it going to hit the cooler (how many inches from ground to cooler face? That is a more than decent size rock that everyone should avoid, no matter what car they drive.) If you have lowered your car so much that small rocks will not pass through, well that is on the car owner, not BMW. The CFS heat exchanger I have comes with a "rock guard" which will do nothing to stop a debris/prevent damage from anything other [...]

Only once in 40 years have I experienced multiple bouncing bricks. They fell off a big lorry, bounced under a transit in front of me then went through my front grill. No time to avoid. Protection helps against small stuff at the loss of some airflow (can be 50% or more - there are online mesh airflow calculators). I use the zunsport which is quite robust and expect this to cope with gravel. Anything larger is much rarer but will be catastrophic.

[davidmct-M3]

[QUOTE=Trogster;30748535]Perhaps a marginal safety improvement. However you can just add a rubber flap extension and enjoy the same benefit.

One of the bmw videos on aero mentions this as part of the underbody airflow design

[TacoProfit]

Originally Posted by forcefed

Here's another option, message Paul Riccio on Facebook
Someone posted it halfway in this thread, I ordered mine already.
Video here of it https://www.facebook.com/groups/6857...40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

Can someone vouch for Legendary Track Experience. I want to buy one from him but before I Zelle I just wanted to make sure im good to go.

[forcefed]

Originally Posted by TacoProfit

Can someone vouch for Legendary Track Experience. I want to buy one from him but before I Zelle I just wanted to make sure im good to go.

I got it straight from Paul, but I think lte is somewhat connected to Paul but not sure.