[Squidget]

Originally Posted by hufington

I own neither one but would buy the 240 and get a real tune plus suspension & brake upgrades with the saved money. I know an M car is more preferable to most but this would be cool weekend or track car.

Fair, but be aware the difference is only about $11K, so you'll have to be frugal. And there are some things that the G42 won't be able to replicate even with mods. The new 10-step traction control system is a big one.

As long as your expectations are reasonable, the M240i is a great modding platform.

[Chris13002]

Originally Posted by Squidget

Fair, but be aware the difference is only about $11K, so you'll have to be frugal. And there are some things that the G42 won't be able to replicate even with mods. The new 10-step traction control system is a big one.

As long as your expectations are reasonable, the M240i is a great modding platform.

Also the M cars tend to have better resale value. But I'm not going to do any more convincing here. Seems pointless.

[hufington]

Originally Posted by Squidget

Fair, but be aware the difference is only about $11K, so you'll have to be frugal. And there are some things that the G42 won't be able to replicate even with mods. The new 10-step traction control system is a big one.

As long as your expectations are reasonable, the M240i is a great modding platform.

I know myself. If I get the M2, I'd spend a boatload of money for modding and then won't take it to the track as I would not want to mess it up. Lol. With the 240, it would not be a problem as I would not keep it for as long as I would the M2. But you're right about the price difference. Although, it might be easier and faster to get a 240 than get your hands on a M2.

[fcman]

Originally Posted by Squidget

Ugh, fairness means i have to scold you too. Please don't make it "us vs them." Both are good.

It's too late, cant turn back now.

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by hufington

Although, it might be easier and faster to get a 240 than get your hands on a M2.

Oh, this is totally true. Every dealer I've been to in the last couple years has a G42 on the lot, often in Thundernight. M cars are harder to get, and ADM is rampant. It kinda sucks.

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by fcman

It's too late, cant turn back now.

It's a shame when one falls to the dark side.

[StickyPickle]

Is it me or did anyone make a wtf face during the exhaust test? Maybe it’s just me but that Milltek didn’t sound good to me at all but maybe it’s just not the type of exhaust sound I like.

Also it’s a shame no one in the video said anything about the down pipe in the G42. As previously mentioned, a catless down pipe is a fairly significant bolt on mod, even without the piggyback activated.

And as far as the looks, we know the G42 is kitted out with side skirts, front lip, spoiler, diffuser, has a wrap and HAS kit. The G87 is completely bone stock.

As a former G42 owner, I appreciate that they did this video but it’s very misleading to the masses who don’t understand the differences between these 2 cars when they’re both stock. Many people who don’t know any better will look at this G42 and use it as their example of comparing performance and looks to the G87.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by Squidget

People do... realize that these are both BMWs and trying to shit on one or the other is friendly fire, right?

You must be new to these parts…

[turbowilly]

Originally Posted by Chris13002

A video comes out with a modded car vs a stock car and people start freaking out writing comments like this...
It is easy for me to justify my M2 purchase because it's a true M car, vs an "M-sport" 240i that you could do all the bolts-on in the world and still not be a true M car. When I had my 135i, I didn't go into the 1M forums telling them that the 1M was hard to justify.

Still not an M car and never will be

[Autobahn SoCal]

Originally Posted by E63M6_G42M240i

That’s because it’s not 460 bhp stock, while the m240i with the box is closer to its number (450 bhp). The m2 is closer to 500+ bhp. But yeah the s58 has more potential without replacing internals, turbos, etc. What pisses me off is the fact it’s 35 kg heavier despite only driving its rear wheels. They better trim some fat from the upcoming CS.

BMW states the G42 xDrive is 3871 lbs and the G87 is 3814 lbs and even a bit less with the CF roof in this vid so those figures are incorrect.

[Autobahn SoCal]

BMW states the G42 xDrive is 3871 lbs and the G87 is 3814 lbs and even a bit less with the CF roof in this vid so those figures are incorrect about the weights in this vid.

[Autobahn SoCal]

Originally Posted by rons e92

I owned a G42 M240i, drove it every day for a year and put 16,000 miles on it before trading it for my G87.

It's a night and day difference between the two in literally every way you could possibly think of other than the launch.

My M240i was lowered on Dahler springs, had staggered Apex wheels, I was running a JB4, it had an AA downpipe and an Eventuri intake. Even with those mods the stock M2 still feels like more of a performance car.

When I had the M240i put back to stock a few days before I traded it, it was abundantly clear to me. The M240i is a daily driver. It's meant to be a quick little commuter car you can use every day and you can have some fun with on the track.

The M2 is a racecar that they added creature comforts to. Everything from the throttle, steering, suspension, brakes, exhaust, the interior setup, the exterior looks, literally everything is dialed up to 11.

The M2 did make a massive leap in daily drivability, and I'm daily driving mine even with downpipes and a full exhaust system, but they're way further apart stock for stock than you'd think from a driving feel.

When I got the M240i and I was switching to the black badge, I almost didn't install the M badge because it felt dishonest to me, a kind of marketing ploy. Now that I own an M2, it's more clear to me. I was on the other side of the fence until I got the G87.

And this isn't to say the G42 is a bad car, or even a bad sports car. It's incredible. With a few little mods it can be really amazing, but they're not the same car. If I didn't need the equity in the M240i to get the M2 I [...]

I’m doing the same as you, using the equity in my M240 for the G87 (on order).
I’ve heard the G87 in comfort is very similar to the G42 in comfort in terms of daily ride quality what are your thoughts? I’ve heard the real difference in the G87 is when you go sport / sport plus it’s much tighter.

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by M2siast

You must be new to these parts…

You know I'm not. I'm just endlessly optimistic, it's a weakness of mine.

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by Autobahn SoCal

I’ve heard the G87 in comfort is very similar to the G42 in comfort in terms of daily ride quality what are your thoughts? I’ve heard the real difference in the G87 is when you go sport / sport plus it’s much tighter.

The G87 in Comfort mode is probably a shade less soft than the G42. But the G87 is my DD and after a few thousand miles (including a couple 10-hour drives) I still think it's a perfectly comfortable ride.

Even in Sport+, the G87 chassis stays planted on cracks and uneven pavement. This is in contrast with the F87, which could get really "hoppy" and skittish at the rear. The G87's motto should be "all traction, everywhere, all the time."

[TwofourT]

Originally Posted by SpeedyATL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5lTrkHelGg

M240ix vs M2 auto.

Pretty impressive showing by the B58.

Love this

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by Squidget

You know I'm not. I'm just endlessly optimistic, it's a weakness of mine.

I know!
Just my figure of speech to make the point.

Appreciate your endless energy. It’s a strength.

My weakness is going through the same rodeo every week and getting tired.

Whoever said something about the 135i and 1M is spot on. And I was there with my 135i as well, never once having posted in the 1M forum about how my stage 2+ modified car could be a better choice than a 1M.

I didn’t fool myself then, and don’t fool myself now. I guess history just has a tendency of repeating itself.

[TwofourT]

Originally Posted by M2siast

As I mentioned before, unfortunately only one of those vehicles can be had in a manual and be a car to be considered.

So, in essence, this is a one car comparison.

Bitter, Party of 1? lol

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by TwofourT

Bitter, Party of 1? lol

Bitter? Why would I be bitter? LOL

[TwofourT]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Bitter? Why would I be bitter? LOL

Just playing around. Declarative statements like the one you made about it being 1 car race are funny

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by TwofourT

Just playing around. Declarative statements like the one you made about it being 1 car race are funny

Why is it funny?

[TwofourT]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Why is it funny?

Cause there are very clearly two cars.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by TwofourT

Cause there are very clearly two cars.

Well then maybe you just didn’t understand what I said.

Only one of those two cars can be had with a manual transmission. Only one car is an option to me.

It’s like comparing the M2 to Audi, Mercedes, etc. none are real competitors.