[kyrix1st]

Dumbest part about the car IMO. MT with a proper handbrake shouldn't be that hard to manufacture.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by aerobod

It will automatically engage when Drive-ready state is switched off or the drivers door is opened (P126 of the manual, at least that is the case in the electronic copy I have).

I think there’s some confusion here.
The manual doesn’t state the parking brake will be engaged when you exit the car. It says it does that when the auto hold is on. This has been the case for over 10 years.

Since the MT doesn’t have auto hold, have you confirmed the parking brake was applied in your car?

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by M2siast

I think there’s some confusion here.
The manual doesn’t state the parking brake will be engaged when you exit the car. It says it does that when the auto hold is on. This has been the case for over 10 years.

Since the MT doesn’t have auto hold, have you confirmed the parking brake was applied in your car?

It does work in my car, it also has a version of auto hold that allows drive-off with the brake applied without manually disengaging it. The only thing I would also like is the ability to release the parking brake without starting the engine, just powering on the car without starting into Drive-ready state and pressing on the brake pedal won't allow manual release of the parking brake to allow the car to roll without the engine running (such as when I want to roll out from the garage on to the driveway and not start the car).

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by aerobod

It does work in my car, it also has a version of auto hold that allows drive-off with the brake applied without manually disengaging it. The only thing I would also like is the ability to release the parking brake without starting the engine, just powering on the car without starting into Drive-ready state and pressing on the brake pedal won't allow manual release of the parking brake to allow the car to roll without the engine running (such as when I want to roll out from the garage on to the driveway and not start the car).

Cool, thanks for confirming. I'll test it in my car.
Have you tried putting the car in diagnostic mode (pushing the start-stop button 3 times without holding the clutch down) and trying to deactivate the e-brake?

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Cool, thanks for confirming. I'll test it in my car.
Have you tried putting the car in diagnostic mode (pushing the start-stop button 3 times without holding the clutch down) and trying to deactivate the e-brake?

I haven't tried diagnostic mode to release the brake yet, will see if that works.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by aerobod

It will automatically engage when Drive-ready state is switched off or the drivers door is opened (P126 of the manual, at least that is the case in the electronic copy I have).

Hmm. I’ll have to test it. Thanks for pointing that out.

[mynameisnick4]

Originally Posted by zero21

I've seen mine automatically disengage, but it definitely does not automatically engage. You could imagine how many times someone might accidentally press it.

I have been in other cars where you can configure the electronic parking brake to engage automatically when parked. Granted this was in an automatic car so the car had a clear indicator (being in park) of when to engage it. Still even in a manual car there should be a way to do this, such as have it engage after you come to a stand still and turn the car off.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by aerobod

It does work in my car, it also has a version of auto hold that allows drive-off with the brake applied without manually disengaging it. The only thing I would also like is the ability to release the parking brake without starting the engine, just powering on the car without starting into Drive-ready state and pressing on the brake pedal won't allow manual release of the parking brake to allow the car to roll without the engine running (such as when I want to roll out from the garage on to the driveway and not start the car).

Originally Posted by aerobod

I haven't tried diagnostic mode to release the brake yet, will see if that works.

It didn’t work in my car.
I turned it off as normal, opened the door, and the car started rolling…
Did you have to configure anything?

I have to manually set the parking brake.

[Trogster]

Originally Posted by M2siast

It didn’t work in my car.
I turned it off as normal, opened the door, and the car started rolling…
Did you have to configure anything?

I have to manually set the parking brake.

During my first week of ownership, the P-brake would energize whenever I parked my MT car and placed the gearbox in 1st or reverse.

Now, regardless of the gear I park in, I have to apply the P-brake manually.

Plus, the car has to be in the drive-ready state to disable the P-brake...either by depressing the button, or drive off.

Hill-hold still works as it should.

Frankly, I prefer that I have to enable the P-Brake myself, but I'm curious why the auto-enable function stopped working after 1-week?

No sure if I'll have the dealer look into this at my next scheduled service.

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by aerobod

I would also like is the ability to release the parking brake without starting the engine, just powering on the car without starting into Drive-ready state and pressing on the brake pedal won't allow manual release of the parking brake to allow the car to roll without the engine running (such as when I want to roll out from the garage on to the driveway and not start the car).

So much this, I wanted to roll my car out of the garage to spray it down and could not find a way to disengage the brake. I eventually had to travel all the way back into the house for the key. FWP!

[Trogster]

Originally Posted by Squidget

So much this, I wanted to roll my car out of the garage to spray it down and could not find a way to disengage the brake. I eventually had to travel all the way back into the house for the key. FWP!

So much half-baked tech in the car industry.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by M2siast

It didn’t work in my car.
I turned it off as normal, opened the door, and the car started rolling…
Did you have to configure anything?

I have to manually set the parking brake.

I didn’t configure anything, but being used to electric parking brakes on European cars in general, I don’t bother releasing the brake manually when I drive off, as they all auto-release, so that may be the difference in what I’m doing compared with if the brake is manually released and set.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by aerobod

I didn’t configure anything, but being used to electric parking brakes on European cars in general, I don’t bother releasing the brake manually when I drive off, as they all auto-release, so that may be the difference in what I’m doing compared with if the brake is manually released and set.

I never manually release it when driving off.

I’ll try parking with first engaged and see if it does it next time. I’m usually in neutral.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by M2siast

I never manually release it when driving off.

I’ll try parking with first engaged and see if it does it next time. I’m usually in neutral.

There may be some other subtleties or software release versions at play here, it seems.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by aerobod

There may be some other subtleties or software release versions at play here, it seems.

I’ll run a couple of tests and see. My iDrive indicates version 11/2022.60 (it might be a different version than the ECU that controls the parking brake, but a good indication).
What’s yours?

I’m scheduled for a software update on Thursday. I’ll be able to confirm my tests now and after the update if something changed.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by M2siast

I’ll run a couple of tests and see. My iDrive indicates version 11/2022.60 (it might be a different version than the ECU that controls the parking brake, but a good indication).
What’s yours?

I’m scheduled for a software update on Thursday. I’ll be able to confirm my tests now and after the update if something changed.

Off the top of my head 03.2023.40 I think, as I’m not with the car at the moment.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by aerobod

Off the top of my head 03.2023.40 I think, as I’m not with the car at the moment.

It’ll be interesting to find this was introduced with a software update… although Trogster ’s experience is the opposite…

[Trogster]

Originally Posted by M2siast

It’ll be interesting to find this was introduced with a software update… although Trogster ’s experience is the opposite…

I can confirm my Software is at Rev: 03.2023.40

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by aerobod

It does work in my car, it also has a version of auto hold that allows drive-off with the brake applied without manually disengaging it. The only thing I would also like is the ability to release the parking brake without starting the engine, just powering on the car without starting into Drive-ready state and pressing on the brake pedal won't allow manual release of the parking brake to allow the car to roll without the engine running (such as when I want to roll out from the garage on to the driveway and not start the car).

Are you a teenager sneaking out?

[cmgbk75]

Originally Posted by Trogster

During my first week of ownership, the P-brake would energize whenever I parked my MT car and placed the gearbox in 1st or reverse.

Now, regardless of the gear I park in, I have to apply the P-brake manually.

Plus, the car has to be in the drive-ready state to disable the P-brake...either by depressing the button, or drive off.

Hill-hold still works as it should.

Frankly, I prefer that I have to enable the P-Brake myself, but I'm curious why the auto-enable function stopped working after 1-week?

No sure if I'll have the dealer look into this at my next scheduled service.

Mine does this still. Strange yours would stop. I can’t find any settings for it so you’re probably correct, it’s a glitch. I do recall reading in the physical manual that this is how it should work.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by cmgbk75

Are you a teenager sneaking out?

Ha ha, I only act the age of one. In the winter when I work in the garage that doubles as my workshop/machine shop I need more space, so tne BMW and Porsche go on the driveway. It is bad practice to start then stop the engine for such a short time, especially when it is -30C, so I try to drive at least 10km when it is cold to fully warm the oil before shutting the car off again.

[Trogster]

Originally Posted by cmgbk75

Mine does this still. Strange yours would stop. I can’t find any settings for it so you’re probably correct, it’s a glitch. I do recall reading in the physical manual that this is how it should work.

Interesting...can you confirm your current iDrive software version?