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      06-02-2023, 03:24 PM   #45
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Pretty clean overall. Fender vents are a no for me. Love the duck tail.
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This is quite a take because it’s literally the first time I’ve read someone thinks the car looks worse in person than it does in pics.
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Ditto, totally fair if it's not your cup of tea but legitimately the first time I have heard that opinion.
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First time I've read that as well but they feel how they feel. What gets me is there's 8 billion people on the planet and they don't understand how anyone thinks this car looks good. Enough said.
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I've learned to ignore the people that do fly by shittings when these threads are put on the front page.
It is genuinely awful, but everyone has their own tastes. I thought I would like it better in person, but nope. Same for the G80. The G87 looks awkward from almost every angle. It looks like an unfinished render. The only redeeming design feature is the wide arches and the silhouette view is passable.

Compare it to previous BMW designs and tell me it's better with a straight face. I get that not everything will look better over time, and cars get more bloated due to regs and other reasons. Almost all manufacturers are guilty of this, but BMW is by far the worst offender. They went from subtle, elegant designs to gaudy "look at me" designs. Everything is over styled.

I'm a diehard BMW fan and have owned every gen M3 up until the F80, but I know I'm not the only one who has a sour taste in their mouth about the direction the brand has taken. Maybe it's just me becoming an old fart.

As I said earlier though, different strokes for different folks. Don't take my words too seriously as everyone has different tastes and that's what adds flavor to the world. And I've owned a z3 M coupe and z4 M coupe which many would describe as disgusting so 🤷
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It is genuinely awful, but everyone has their own tastes. I thought I would like it better in person, but nope. Same for the G80. The G87 looks awkward from almost every angle. It looks like an unfinished render. The only redeeming design feature is the wide arches and the silhouette view is passable.

Compare it to previous BMW designs and tell me it's better with a straight face. I get that not everything will look better over time, and cars get more bloated due to regs and other reasons. Almost all manufacturers are guilty of this, but BMW is by far the worst offender. They went from subtle, elegant designs to gaudy "look at me" designs. Everything is over styled.

I'm a diehard BMW fan and have owned every gen M3 up until the F80, but I know I'm not the only one who has a sour taste in their mouth about the direction the brand has taken. Maybe it's just me becoming an old fart.

As I said earlier though, different strokes for different folks. Don't take my words too seriously as everyone has different tastes and that's what adds flavor to the world. And I've owned a z3 M coupe and z4 M coupe which many would describe as disgusting so ��
With a straight face, it's better than most previous BMW designs to me, but unlike you I'm not a diehard BMW fan. I've only owned one, pre-LCI 335i E92, which I bought used in 2015. While I liked the way my car looked when I bought it and have grown to love it, that's not the reason I bought it. I've become a BMW fan because they make one hell of a twin turbo inline 6.

6 out of 7 cars that I owned before the bimmer were Japanese and I grew up a big fan of cars like the FD RX-7, Silvia S15, R32-R34 GT-R's, Mk IV Supra, etc. Unpopular opinion but deep down I've always felt that most BMW designs are pretty romanticized and exterior wise they don't do much for me. Not trying to offend anyone who loves those cars, as naturally many here do, but just my honest opinion. It's probably why the look of the G87 appeals to me.

Like you said, different strokes for different folks
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I suppose that's part of the appeal of older BMWs. They're pretty understated and unless you're really into the marque, it's easy to be apathetic towards their older cars. They have hints of aggressiveness, but nothing over the top. Whereas the newer cars you either love it or you're repulsed by it, but they evoke a stronger response than apathy even from those that couldn't care less about cars.

I also grew up loving JDM cars, but somehow found my way to be a BMW whore. Still a JDM fanboy at heart.

Either way sorry, I don't want to side track this thread. The parts are lovely. If I liked the car and had one, I'd definitely buy em.

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      06-02-2023, 05:58 PM   #49
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It is genuinely awful, but everyone has their own tastes. I thought I would like it better in person, but nope. Same for the G80. The G87 looks awkward from almost every angle. It looks like an unfinished render. The only redeeming design feature is the wide arches and the silhouette view is passable.

Compare it to previous BMW designs and tell me it's better with a straight face. I get that not everything will look better over time, and cars get more bloated due to regs and other reasons. Almost all manufacturers are guilty of this, but BMW is by far the worst offender. They went from subtle, elegant designs to gaudy "look at me" designs. Everything is over styled.

I'm a diehard BMW fan and have owned every gen M3 up until the F80, but I know I'm not the only one who has a sour taste in their mouth about the direction the brand has taken. Maybe it's just me becoming an old fart.

As I said earlier though, different strokes for different folks. Don't take my words too seriously as everyone has different tastes and that's what adds flavor to the world. And I've owned a z3 M coupe and z4 M coupe which many would describe as disgusting so 🤷
I am in the old fart category (75 end of this month) and I've owned the first of the last 3 gens of M3/4 coupe, but couldn't stomach the schnoz on the G82. This car has grown on me a lot since I first saw it and liked it more in person. I agree with that most auto makers are taking an overstyled direction, but given the choices out there, I know I will be happy with this (after a few mods).
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That grille is a big no. Horizontal slats are already borderline acceptable on this car but simplifying it to just a single horizontal slat is a big eye sore imo. Need to come out with a vertical CF grille…
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Seriously the design is perfect. BMW need to hire AlphaN for there design department.
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You're not wrong, but that's how modifying a car works. Drop $20k+ on pretty much anything and you're in some other car's territory. The difference is having something unique that you've made your own vs. a car from the factory. I'd take a G87 with some of the pieces from this kit over a stock G82 based on looks alone.
I know how modding works , but the main benefit of an M2 is that it’s a cheaper alternative to an M4. You get the same engine etc in a slightly smaller package. Other than the looks what’s the benefit of getting this and getting that kit over an M4?
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I know how modding works , but the main benefit of an M2 is that it’s a cheaper alternative to an M4. You get the same engine etc in a slightly smaller package. Other than the looks what’s the benefit of getting this and getting that kit over an M4?
I guess I ask the same question about the M4 unless you're just looking at it as 4 > 2.


2023 BMW M2 Is Once Again Better Than the M4

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Option that carbon pack and things get a bit more interesting, as MSRP begins to knock on the door of a base M3. We know which we’d rather have—the M2 is plenty quick and miles more fun, plus it looks nicer. For the past seven years the M2 has been M’s most enjoyable car. And this 2023 model is even better.

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With a starting price of $63,195 including destination, the 2023 BMW M2 is not only the best-driving M car, but also the cheapest.

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That said, if you’re looking purely at new car options, the M2 really is in a class of one. No other small sporting coupe is as practical, and in many ways the M2 now asks very serious questions of the M4 itself. There, we just saved you £18,000.

You get the idea. It sounds like the M2 is at the very least as good if not better than the M3/M4 and just so happens to be cheaper. Personally I'm probably never dropping $20k on exterior upgrades alone on any car. I was just saying given those two options I'm taking a personalized M2 over an M4 for the same $. The M2 hits $72,100 with the carbon pack alone, so people are basically picking it over a base M4 now given that they start at $77,000. A less than $5k difference is not factoring in to which car people want when they're already spending over $70k. People want the M2.
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Even though I actually love the fenders, I don't think I could go through with it. Porsche fenders belong on a Porsche. However, that being said, the rest of this kit is absolutely perfect. The ducktail is life 🔥
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You get the idea. It sounds like the M2 is at the very least as good if not better than the M3/M4 and just so happens to be cheaper. Personally I'm probably never dropping $20k on exterior upgrades alone on any car. I was just saying given those two options I'm taking a personalized M2 over an M4 for the same $. The M2 hits $72,100 with the carbon pack alone, so people are basically picking it over a base M4 now given that they start at $77,000. A less than $5k difference is not factoring in to which car people want when they're already spending over $70k. People want the M2.
I actually think the Black M2 looks better than any M4 anyway. The M4 is ugly IMO M3 looks much better. I think a Satan Black wrap with that kit on an M2 would look better than both however I do need a usable Back seat so I’d get the G80
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The difference is, I hope, based on what I’ve heard about alpha-N on the F87, that some of these items might actually be functional.

So the adjustable spoiler, diffuser, and some other stick-on rear spoiler might be the way to go. Plus up with the aero vented fenders for a track car and leave them unpainted (get a black car?). The carbon hood IMO is a no no for a track car, where debris or an off are very possible.

Most other vendors, including OEM M Performance parts, are just for (sometimes questionable) looks. But these here might improve performance and not via the minor weight loss.

I’d do it.
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Uh no please don’t. It’s not a GT3 RS; this is like putting M3 fenders on a Civic.
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Easily the best G87 I’ve seen yet.
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Love the functional vented hood & CSL style boot lid.
Retractable splitter as fitted to the AMG GT black series is fantastic also.
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Easily the best G87 I’ve seen yet.
Can’t go wrong with E88’s & the ride height is spot on too.
Love the functional vented hood & CSL style boot lid.
Retractable splitter as fitted to the AMG GT black series is fantastic also.
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Looks amazing! I've seen this kit whilst its being developed and excited to see the whole look. There are a number of variations which will allows for different looks.

We pretty much had the whole Alpha N kit on our F87 M2 so you looking forward to doing the same on our G87 when it arrives shortly.
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Some additional launch media from Alpha-N added to the initial post to get a better look at a complete package.











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I literally would buy the M2 just to run this full kit! Looks superb.
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