[Squidget]

Originally Posted by baron95

M2's 453 horses are clearly stronger horses than Chevy's 455. Looked more like 525HP.

We know that BMW always underreports their HP, and some early dynos seem to imply the G87 has roughly 500 at the crank. I'd like to see some more data to nail down a precise number, tho. I haven't seen an SAE run yet.

[i4Dravit]

Haven't watched the video yet, but why does he title it M2 "Competition"?

Because he is performing in a competition?

Seems a bit misleading...

[KANdaddy]

Originally Posted by Autobahn SoCal

I just can’t stop laughing at that Tesla with the enormous rear wing haha

I was thinking the same. Just seeing a Tesla on the track at all makes me cackle.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by KANdaddy

I was thinking the same. Just seeing a Tesla on the track at all makes me cackle.

Not sure if Teslas or EVs in general may be banned from a lot of tracks in the near future. Our track club had to introduce a no EV policy for this season (previous years we have typically had a couple out on a given track day) due to the 3rd party insurers who cover damage to track infrastructure saying they won't insure track days with EVs, due to the fire risk and lack of suitable fire fighting capability if the batteries are damaged and catch fire.

[Squidget]

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/11...-ev-batteries/

"Firefighters needed four hours to douse the flames, in part because the battery kept reigniting. When the blaze was finally over, about 30,000 gallons of water had been poured on it—what the department normally uses in a month."

[rwemersonrw]

Not driving with TC off and almost losing the car hmmmm

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Squidget

In the practical sense, it is literally impossible to put out. You can't smother it since it's an electrical fire and requires neither heat nor oxygen.

Current guidance for firefighters is to just douse batteries with a constant stream of water until the batteries have discharged. This in no way saves the car, the goal is only to prevent the fire from spreading.

Also they often have to watch batteries for more than 24 hours to make sure they stay cool and don’t reignite

Lots of OT for the local fire chapter but it’s not uncommon

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by rwemersonrw

Not driving with TC off and almost losing the car hmmmm

I believe it was half off

But regardless Jackie is clearly comfortable at the limit

[Ravenseal]

Great vid JackiePhD. Killer driving.

[Montaver]

Originally Posted by baron95

I couldn't believe it either that is an amazing speed and usually hit by cars with 500HP++.

A few of the ponies escaped BMW's count of 453.

It was impressive for sure, especially considering it’s on PS4S. It will be interesting to see how far they take it, the Supra was a monster. You can hit 150 going into bus stop in a car with a lot less than 500hp though. I hit 150 there in my 718 GT4 which has 414 naturally aspirated Stuttgart ponies.

[KANdaddy]

Originally Posted by Squidget

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/11...-ev-batteries/

"When the blaze was finally over, about 30,000 gallons of water had been poured on it—what the department normally uses in a month."

That seems super environmentally friendly. Good job Tesla fanbois.

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by Montaver

I hit 150 there in my 718 GT4 which has 414 naturally aspirated Stuttgart ponies.

Of course, yes, but that's a 718 GT4 that MSRPs for $100K and weighs 3100 lb. So let's not lose perspective here.

[Montaver]

Originally Posted by Squidget

Of course, yes, but that's a 718 GT4 that MSRPs for $100K and weighs 3100 lb. So let's not lose perspective here.

Different price points for sure, wasn't a criticism of the M2. I used to own an F87 M2C myself. Weight wise there is no getting around it, 3,800lbs is a lot. Not sure what class they will be competing the M2 in but interested to see how much they strip out of it.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by KANdaddy

That seems super environmentally friendly. Good job Tesla fanbois.

It’s not specific to Tesla

It’s actually highly rare as well

Unless it happens to be a Chevy Bolt

[jfritz27]

On PS4Ss?

God DAMN

[Sherlock997]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

I believe it was half off

But regardless Jackie is clearly comfortable at the limit

What I understand from his explanation is anything under 5 iirc isn't using stability control and only uses engine management to keep the rear in check meaning it won't save you if you lose it.

[KANdaddy]

Originally Posted by ///m town

it’s not specific to tesla

it’s actually highly rare as well

unless it happens to be a chevy bolt

🤣🤣

[Xspeedracer]

The burning lithium creates a metal fire existing at temperatures of 2,000 degrees Celsius/3632 degrees Fahrenheit. Attempting to douse the fire with water is inadvisable since this could lead to a hydrogen gas explosion!

[baron95]

Originally Posted by Montaver

It was impressive for sure, especially considering it’s on PS4S. It will be interesting to see how far they take it, the Supra was a monster. You can hit 150 going into bus stop in a car with a lot less than 500hp though. I hit 150 there in my 718 GT4 which has 414 naturally aspirated Stuttgart ponies.

Sure can. 718 GT4s are amazing 500 lbs lighter than this G87 and a bit of aero. I bet you came out of the esses a bit faster, and going uphill weight matters.

It was good driving for sure. I don't drive that loose at WGI with my street car. Racing the Spec E30 it's fair game, but not in the car I need to drive home.

This guy sure has some marbles.

[JackiePhD]

Thanks guys!!
I’m out at Road Atlanta with the other car so haven’t been able to follow up on this haha.

And by the popular demand, I added a comma to the video title after M2, since we just wanted to call the video the “competition debut” of the M2. Unintended clickbait, sorry. Hah.

So far the biggest shortfall of the M2 on track I feel is long duration corners, we haven’t quite found the sweet spot in terms of balance and long corners exposes its weight and inherent safety understeer. But you can’t argue it’s not an effective track machine with how it can belt out these insane laptimes for near-stock form. It makes me very hyped for what we have planned coming next

[G30 B58]

Originally Posted by aerobod

Not sure if Teslas or EVs in general may be banned from a lot of tracks in the near future. Our track club had to introduce a no EV policy for this season (previous years we have typically had a couple out on a given track day) due to the 3rd party insurers who cover damage to track infrastructure saying they won't insure track days with EVs, due to the fire risk and lack of suitable fire fighting capability if the batteries are damaged and catch fire.

EVs are not allowed at NJMP.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by JackiePhD

Thanks guys!!
I’m out at Road Atlanta with the other car so haven’t been able to follow up on this haha.

And by the popular demand, I added a comma to the video title after M2, since we just wanted to call the video the “competition debut” of the M2. Unintended clickbait, sorry. Hah.

So far the biggest shortfall of the M2 on track I feel is long duration corners, we haven’t quite found the sweet spot in terms of balance and long corners exposes its weight and inherent safety understeer. But you can’t argue it’s not an effective track machine with how it can belt out these insane laptimes for near-stock form. It makes me very hyped for what we have planned coming next

Good stuff my friend

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