[TXSTYLE]

EVs are here to stay... Period. Now that we've gotten that out of the way.

But they also represent the absolute quickest times of any production vehicles in history. Achieving times that are unheard of unless you have several Millions of dollars for one Hypercar or you are towing your own non streetable Muscle Dragster to the strip on a Trailer!

Having personally ridden in and driven both a modified Supercar and a relatives heavily modified 69' Camaro equipped with racing slicks and a wheelie bar in 9ish seconds, I can confirm how mind bending quick these speeds are. In fact, they are dangerously deceptive in terms of the feeling and pressure they place on your senses. The fact that these 3 cars here can literally be purchased straight from the dealer and hit these numbers when pulling right off of the parking lot is pure insanity! And I'm all for it.

[BlkGS]

I have no interest in any of these 3. Yes they're fast. Whatever. They all look like reject designs from Grand Theft Auto.

[TXSTYLE]

I forgot to add, I've sat inside the Lucid and seen several in my area, not necessarily the Sapphire model. It is a very attractive car inside and out. I would gladly own one. The Tesla brand has never appealed to me outside or inside. It's just too generic and boring for me personally.

[///MPhatic]

No interest in these cars at all from me either, but I'll bet that Rimac is fun for 9 seconds or so.

[Sedoy]

Regardless of all forthcoming valid comments about it being a soulless appliance, the Tesla Model S Plaid is such a performance bargain, and can achieve the same MPG as a Prius, it’s unreal.

[TXSTYLE]

Originally Posted by Sedoy

Regardless of all forthcoming valid comments about it being a soulless appliance, the Tesla Model S Plaid is such a performance bargain, and can achieve the same MPG as a Prius, it’s unreal.

Pure Facts.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Sedoy

Regardless of all forthcoming valid comments about it being a soulless appliance, the Tesla Model S Plaid is such a performance bargain, and can achieve the same MPG as a Prius, it’s unreal.

After 4 BMW M cars in a row I am enjoying the hell out of my S Plaid.

[TXSTYLE]

Originally Posted by gblansten

After 4 BMW M cars in a row I am enjoying the hell out of my S Plaid.

Now THAT is saying something.

[ash_schwin]

Reminds me of watching an action movie on mute.

[DrVenture]

Originally Posted by Sedoy

Regardless of all forthcoming valid comments about it being a soulless appliance, the Tesla Model S Plaid is such a performance bargain, and can achieve the same MPG as a Prius, it’s unreal.

And it underlines how much more inexpensive or cost effective any EV can be versus ICE vehicles.

There are still many challenges to be overcome, from infrastructure to range to battery chemistry and QC. But, these are clearly early days. To each his own.

[ShocknAwe]

I'll be interested when it's a ICE/HCE hybrid driving the Regen for the EV motors.

Until then, nice 1/4m times. Not interested in batteries.

[TR930]

GT3, 6MT

[Sedoy]

So far, the only company to announce an onboard ICE generator capable of charging internal HV battery is Stellantis, with the 2025 Ram 1500 Ramcharger, unfotunately BMW has discontinued the i3.

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

I'll be interested when it's a ICE/HCE hybrid driving the Regen for the EV motors.

Until then, nice 1/4m times. Not interested in batteries.

[Murf the Surf]

[QUOTE=TXSTYLE;31616545]EVs are here to stay... Period. Now that we've gotten that out of the way.

They might be here to stay and not to turn this political but with your new president elect I have to wonder what's going to happen to the EV industry. The mandates will be gone, so I suspect the already bogged down market for EV's will likely slow to a crawl.

[TXSTYLE]

[QUOTE=Murf the Surf;31617490]

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

EVs are here to stay... Period. Now that we've gotten that out of the way.

They might be here to stay and not to turn this political but with your new president elect I have to wonder what's going to happen to the EV industry. The mandates will be gone, so I suspect the already bogged down market for EV's will likely slow to a crawl.

Don't even get me started on that. But, good point.

[BlkGS]

The EV industry wpuld be healthier without mandates and tax breaks. They would have to focus on building cars that make economic sense and are actually good, rather than rushing to push something they lose a little money as possible on to satisfy bureaucrats.

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

They might be here to stay and not to turn this political but with your new president elect I have to wonder what's going to happen to the EV industry. The mandates will be gone, so I suspect the already bogged down market for EV's will likely slow to a crawl.

Maybe for domestic products, but Europe is still pushing forward with their plans (albeit subject to change as we've already seen). So even domestic brands will have to consider the EU, UK, and the already forging forward Asian markets.

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

I have no interest in any of these 3. Yes they're fast. Whatever. They all look like reject designs from Grand Theft Auto.

Been 8.90’s in the GTR. No need for an EV to hit those times. Now that was on 18’s which the car has not been on in awhile. But who drag races now a days anyway? Roll Racing or bust baby

[Efthreeoh]

Next time I'm at a local municipal airport...

I can go drive one.

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

Maybe for domestic products, but Europe is still pushing forward with their plans (albeit subject to change as we've already seen). So even domestic brands will have to consider the EU, UK, and the already forging forward Asian markets.

China market is a lost cause for any non CDM car. The CCP will one day just pull the plug on foreign companies anyways. Or they'll encourage them to dump products below cost to drive their competition out of business to purchase their naming rights to fool gullible consumers. Well, they've already done that a few times.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by Sedoy

Regardless of all forthcoming valid comments about it being a soulless appliance, the Tesla Model S Plaid is such a 0-60 and quarter mile bargain, and can achieve the same MPG as a Prius, it’s unreal.

Fixed that for ya.

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by Sedoy

So far, the only company to announce an onboard ICE generator capable of charging internal HV battery is Stellantis, with the 2025 Ram 1500 Ramcharger, unfotunately BMW has discontinued the i3.

Exactly, big market for this and development. Also not wanting to start a big discussion on this but it's not about CHARGING anything. It's about direct current production required to power the motors. No battery except to fire up the ICE as usual, just capacitors.

Gonna be a huge cleanup effort to get all the huge battery packs out of all these EVs