Report: G87 M2 CS / CSL Model Coming With 473bhp [Autocar UK]

Clemenza · 09-15-2022, 12:07 AM

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https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...k-473bhp-punch.

M2PDX · 09-15-2022, 01:38 AM

Hmmmmm....very interesting!

ScullyD · 09-15-2022, 04:19 PM

"Power will be sent to the rear wheels through BMW's paddle-shift eight-speed automatic gearbox."

Cue the G82 M4 CSL and F87 M2 CS values going to the moon.

rdp312 · 09-15-2022, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScullyD

"Power will be sent to the rear wheels through BMW's paddle-shift eight-speed automatic gearbox."

Cue the G82 M4 CSL and F87 M2 CS values going to the moon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScullyD

"Power will be sent to the rear wheels through BMW's paddle-shift eight-speed automatic gearbox."

Cue the G82 M4 CSL and F87 M2 CS values going to the moon.

csl isn't manual

ScullyD · 09-15-2022, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdp312

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScullyD

"Power will be sent to the rear wheels through BMW's paddle-shift eight-speed automatic gearbox."

Cue the G82 M4 CSL and F87 M2 CS values going to the moon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScullyD

"Power will be sent to the rear wheels through BMW's paddle-shift eight-speed automatic gearbox."

Cue the G82 M4 CSL and F87 M2 CS values going to the moon.

csl isn't manual

Doesn't matter, it's a more powerful automatic car in the G series generation with a similar drive layout so it will be the more desirable. Why would anyone want a car that's down 67 hp with the same engine and idrive 8?

IcewaterPete · 09-15-2022, 04:27 PM

Now you’ve got my attention!!

ScullyD · 09-15-2022, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RideM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScullyD

"Power will be sent to the rear wheels through BMW's paddle-shift eight-speed automatic gearbox."

Cue the G82 M4 CSL and F87 M2 CS values going to the moon.

I would be very surprised if they didn't offer a manual transmission…

They have a manual rated for 473 hp, so they should do it. But we will see. They aren't offering a manual M4 in the Uk or EU, so if they CS a global model, they may decide to standardize it as an auto.

Zuzu · 09-15-2022, 05:10 PM

Time to visit the dealer for deposit and early allocation..

440i6MT · 09-15-2022, 05:10 PM

Faint smell of over saturation in the air

MadBimmeRad · 09-15-2022, 05:12 PM

Let's see how long it will take for DIY Kings chiming in and saying they can do it with a few kits and software upgrades for $25k less using an ordinary G87

SYT_Shadow · 09-15-2022, 05:20 PM

I'm not surprised at all. By going to 473hp in the CS/CSL version, they still allow the 6MT which will be a good portion of their sales

TheBingoBalls · 09-15-2022, 05:24 PM

So what the F8X should've been?

10" · 09-15-2022, 05:28 PM

When the weight gets so heavy, it becomes essential to add this kind of power—

rdp312 · 09-15-2022, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScullyD

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdp312

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScullyD

"Power will be sent to the rear wheels through BMW's paddle-shift eight-speed automatic gearbox."

Cue the G82 M4 CSL and F87 M2 CS values going to the moon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScullyD

"Power will be sent to the rear wheels through BMW's paddle-shift eight-speed automatic gearbox."

Cue the G82 M4 CSL and F87 M2 CS values going to the moon.

csl isn't manual

Doesn't matter, it's a more powerful automatic car in the G series generation with a similar drive layout so it will be the more desirable. Why would anyone want a car that's down 67 hp with the same engine and idrive 8?

You're forgetting the already 50k+ premium for the 4CSL. Why would it become even more desirable at a price point like that with only a little more hp (you can double that with a tune on the m2) and idrive8 which many dislike?

ScullyD · 09-15-2022, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdp312

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScullyD

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdp312

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScullyD

"Power will be sent to the rear wheels through BMW's paddle-shift eight-speed automatic gearbox."

Cue the G82 M4 CSL and F87 M2 CS values going to the moon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScullyD

"Power will be sent to the rear wheels through BMW's paddle-shift eight-speed automatic gearbox."

Cue the G82 M4 CSL and F87 M2 CS values going to the moon.

csl isn't manual

Doesn't matter, it's a more powerful automatic car in the G series generation with a similar drive layout so it will be the more desirable. Why would anyone want a car that's down 67 hp with the same engine and idrive 8?

You're forgetting the already 50k+ premium for the 4CSL. Why would it become even more desirable at a price point like that with only a little more hp (you can double that with a tune on the m2) and idrive8 which many dislike?

The driving experience of CS/CSL cars can't just be replicated with a tune. Also the M4 CSL doesn't have idrive 8, it has idrive 7.

antzcrashing · 09-15-2022, 05:50 PM

So finally a competitor to the 1M? But like for 3x the price and you have to pay over MSRP

ScullyD · 09-15-2022, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by antzcrashing

So finally a competitor to the 1M? But like for 3x the price and you have to pay over MSRP

What was the M2 CS then?

antzcrashing · 09-15-2022, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ScullyD

Quote:

Originally Posted by antzcrashing

So finally a competitor to the 1M? But like for 3x the price and you have to pay over MSRP

What was the M2 CS then?

Yeah i guess it was first

rdp312 · 09-15-2022, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScullyD

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdp312

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScullyD

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdp312

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScullyD

"Power will be sent to the rear wheels through BMW's paddle-shift eight-speed automatic gearbox."

Cue the G82 M4 CSL and F87 M2 CS values going to the moon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScullyD

"Power will be sent to the rear wheels through BMW's paddle-shift eight-speed automatic gearbox."

Cue the G82 M4 CSL and F87 M2 CS values going to the moon.

csl isn't manual

Doesn't matter, it's a more powerful automatic car in the G series generation with a similar drive layout so it will be the more desirable. Why would anyone want a car that's down 67 hp with the same engine and idrive 8?

You're forgetting the already 50k+ premium for the 4CSL. Why would it become even more desirable at a price point like that with only a little more hp (you can double that with a tune on the m2) and idrive8 which many dislike?

The driving experience of CS/CSL cars can't just be replicated with a tune. Also the M4 CSL doesn't have idrive 8, it has idrive 7.

Time will tell. Look at the prices of the M4 CS/GTS versus the M2 CS….

ghaffari46 · 09-15-2022, 06:13 PM

Just give me a light, RWD, bulged fenders, manual with 400ish hp, and I'm be the happiest man!

prei1978 · 09-15-2022, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rdp312

Time will tell. Look at the prices of the M4 CS/GTS versus the M2 CS….

Exactly what I was thinking.

If BMW does its job right the M2 CS will be different enough from the M4 CSL that they will not overlap.

Habber · 09-15-2022, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ghaffari46

Just give me a light, RWD, bulged fenders, manual with 400ish hp, and I'm be the happiest man!

It starts like this, but then ends up with:

Hate the front end
Hate ID8
Hate the steering
Exhaust sound doesn't sound right
Car feels too heavy
Why doesn't it come with DSG
Why doesn't it come with manual

BMW losing their core audience….

😝

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