G87 M2 gets tuned to 672 wheel horsepower (Jackie Ding - PhD Racing)

E63M6_G42M240i · 03-06-2024, 09:38 AM

Is this supposed to be surprising? 🤷&zwj;♂️

TrentMeister · 03-06-2024, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by M2siast

That’s not what you said at all, but all good; hey we have more in agreement than in disagreement (perhaps we don’t even disagree at all). Just thought it was interesting they call this Stage 1 but it’s probably some BS to debate over anyway, my car being stage 5 with the decals and snow socks anyway…

Yeah it’s just a dumb semantic festival.

Have a good day amigo

GT3M2 · 03-06-2024, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tag

Interesting data points

Everyone talking down the numbers, we have to remind ourselves that this is a car not intended for dragy runs or 1/4 mile numbers but it is going to see sustained time at WOT, different mindset.

Regardless this car with that power/tq is going to be ROWDY, Godspeed Jacky

-GT3M2

ScottyRyan2019 · 03-06-2024, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by curtdragon

It's actually stage 2. They have a downpipe.

This is an S58. Been tried and true to make monster power with a tune and downpipe with E40.
500+ with pump gas and 6-700+ with e40.

We have E85 around here. What kind of power do you think it would make running that ( knowing that E85's ethanol content can vary from 51% to 83%). I've heard the octane rating can run between 100 and 112 and I would assume is varies due to E85's inherent ethanol variation.

Ravenseal · 03-06-2024, 11:12 AM

You're a champ JackiePhD. Love seeing what you're doing with this platform.

M2siast · 03-06-2024, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TrentMeister

Yeah it’s just a dumb semantic festival.

Have a good day amigo

Agreed. You too man!

curtdragon · 03-06-2024, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottyRyan2019

We have E85 around here. What kind of power do you think it would make running that?

I believe you can't run full ethanol without port injection. E40 gives the most power with the stock setup. Even when running flex fuel without the injectors it will dial back when you have a higher content. It's just easier to fill at the pump and let the ecu adjust rather than do chemistry and blend to make E40 lol.
I'm any case E40 downpipe will net you 700s.

Tag · 03-06-2024, 11:40 AM

670whp track shakedown.

curtdragon · 03-06-2024, 12:49 PM

Guys stop arguing lol.

This is it:
Stage 0: stock
Stage 1: any bolts ons besides turbo or downpipe and tune
Stage 2: downpipe and any other mods besides turbo
Stage 3: hybrid turbo
Stage 4: full frame turbo

Fueling is irrelevant. Tune and E40 is stage one. Add downpipe and it's stage 2.

At least that's the case for German cars. I haven't had a factory turbo Japanese.

DailyDownshift · 03-06-2024, 01:47 PM

So what do these cars make to the wheel with stage 2 pump gas (93/94 octane)? Can’t be asked to run fuel or ethanol, not accessible and too expensive where I’m at.

Tag · 03-06-2024, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Daily Downshift

So what do these cars make to the wheel with stage 2 pump gas (93/94 octane)? Can’t be asked to run fuel or ethanol, not accessible and too expensive where I’m at.

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DailyDownshift · 03-06-2024, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tag

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Ahh I must have missed this, figure seems underwhelming :/

M2siast · 03-06-2024, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Daily Downshift

Ahh I must have missed this, figure seems underwhelming :/

Remember we don’t have 93/94 in Canada, unless you fuel up in the US. So gains are smaller even. But 85hp is not too shabby…

M_Power Rob · 03-06-2024, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tag

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Thats bs...I have full bolt ons (downpipes, exhaust and intake) and tuned on 93 octane and over 650whp (yes, I also have heat exchanger, trans & oil coolers and colder plugs but that is security/safety to keep cooler and not adding power).

curtdragon · 03-06-2024, 07:22 PM

Really if you guys want to see what this engine does just hop on over to the M3/4 section. It's the same drivetrain that has been tuned like mad.

M_Power Rob · 03-06-2024, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by M2siast

Remember we don’t have 93/94 in Canada, unless you fuel up in the US. So gains are smaller even. But 85hp is not too shabby…

Since when doesn't Canada have 93/94 octane?

grl.racr · 03-06-2024, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by M2siast

Remember we don’t have 93/94 in Canada, unless you fuel up in the US. So gains are smaller even. But 85hp is not too shabby…

93 is available in the GTA

M2siast · 03-06-2024, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by grl.racr

93 is available in the GTA

Yeah, no it’s not.
Canadian 93 is worse than American 91.

M_Power Rob · 03-06-2024, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by M2siast

Yeah, no it’s not.
Canadian 93 is worse than American 91.

What is wrong with these 93/94 (and I dont mean you just saying so):

https://www.shell.ca/en_ca/drivers/m...-gasoline.html

https://www.petro-canada.ca/en/personal/fuel/gas

DailyDownshift · 03-06-2024, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Thats bs...I have full bolt ons (downpipes, exhaust and intake) and tuned on 93 octane and over 650whp (yes, I also have heat exchanger, trans & oil coolers and colder plugs but that is security/safety to keep cooler and not adding power).

Damn, I wonder why your numbers and his are so far apart for a 93 octane tune. Are you on a custom map or OTS like bootmod3?

M_Power Rob · 03-06-2024, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Daily Downshift

Damn, I wonder why your numbers and his are so far apart for a 93 octane tune. Are you on a custom map or OTS like bootmod3?

Custom tune.

sacowich · 03-07-2024, 12:43 AM

For reference.
I’m at 580s hp with bolt ons and piggyback on pump 93. I’m sure it could be pushed well over 600 with proper tune.

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sacowich First Lieutenant 874 Rep 303 Posts Drives: 2023 M2 6sp Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	For reference. I’m at 580s hp with bolt ons and piggyback on pump 93. I’m sure it could be pushed well over 600 with proper tune.
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