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      09-30-2023, 01:21 AM   #1475
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Are you talking inflation adjusted figures or just nominal figures?

The G87 performance wise matches the F87 CS - so you need to compare these 2, not OG F87. I think G87 is a bargain.

As much as I hate the idea of spending US$80K (with the options and taxes) on a small coupe, compared to spending $110K on an F87 CS 2 years ago or $110K on a Cayman GTS 4.0, it is a good deal.
I agree about the performance improvement, but the G87 is the base M2 and the cheapest M2 you can get, and it is much more expensive than the cheapest M2 before.
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      09-30-2023, 01:23 AM   #1476
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ff to 22:28 if you want to hear just how "ugly and heinous looking the new M2 is ...

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      09-30-2023, 01:32 AM   #1477
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ff to 22:28 if you want to hear just how "ugly and heinous looking the new M2 is ...

Their opinions are just as subjective and / or invalid as any other opinions either for or against the looks. Seems their taste is more for anonymous looking cars.
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time stamped. some words from the guy who will be an editor at car and driver performance car of the year review with the m2 against the integra type s, nismo z, and darkhorse
timestamp didn't work, is there a tl;dw besides that they think it's the ugliest car to ever grace the earth?

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      09-30-2023, 08:42 AM   #1479
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timestamp didn't work, is there a tl;dw besides that they think it's the ugliest car to ever grace the earth?
Stop watching 'car' people who do not matter. You-shite-Tube is 80%+ trash and its not just the M2 idiocy. These people matter why??? THEY DO NOT LOL!
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      09-30-2023, 10:47 AM   #1480
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Stop watching 'car' people who do not matter. You-shite-Tube is 80%+ trash and its not just the M2 idiocy. These people matter why??? THEY DO NOT LOL!
Still curious what their opinion is

This is a thread to discuss.. ya know... reviews of the car.. .
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      09-30-2023, 11:03 AM   #1481
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Still curious what their opinion is

This is a thread to discuss.. ya know... reviews of the car.. .
What are they saying new?? Really??? Anything?????? And of use??

This is well thought out opinion from Autoweek in the USA. You tube know it all ego trash offer nothing close overall. Not specific to the M2 design but related in the overall sense of BMWs design efforts and future.

https://www.autoweek.com/opinion/a45...ion-dave-rand/
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      09-30-2023, 11:23 AM   #1482
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What are they saying new?? Really??? Anything?????? And of use??

This is well thought out opinion from Autoweek in the USA. You tube know it all ego trash offer nothing close overall. Not specific to the M2 design but related in the overall sense of BMWs design efforts and future.

https://www.autoweek.com/opinion/a45...ion-dave-rand/
Cool article, thanks. Don't know why you're so pressed tho
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      09-30-2023, 12:59 PM   #1483
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ff to 22:28 if you want to hear just how "ugly and heinous looking the new M2 is ...

They did say it looks better in black, which is what I ordered. I’m so relieved they think my car is less ugly. 😎

It’s hard to take any comments these guys make as anything more than entertainment value.

It’s amazing how a bunch of reviewers say the G87 is too buttoned down and less fun, then these guys and others say it is mental ang goes sideways all the time with TC off.

That tells me it is a great car that will react well to driver input.

As soon as I (we) get the car reviews will be forgotten. I just watch them now because mine is not built yet.
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      10-01-2023, 12:28 PM   #1484
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From across the pond from the TRE carbon purveyors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBVydpgscFs
That's Excellent Content, backed with valid comparisons and experience to back it up. Thanks !
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      10-02-2023, 12:23 PM   #1486
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I agree about the performance improvement, but the G87 is the base M2 and the cheapest M2 you can get, and it is much more expensive than the cheapest M2 before.
The current G87 is a replacement for the F87 Comp in terms of spec and overall philosophy, and in that comparison the G87 is actually cheaper when factoring inflation. At least in the US
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      10-02-2023, 11:31 PM   #1488
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The current G87 is a replacement for the F87 Comp in terms of spec and overall philosophy, and in that comparison the G87 is actually cheaper when factoring inflation. At least in the US

But I agree, I don't want to open an endless debate, but the M2 Competition is what the M2 should have been from the beginning.
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      10-03-2023, 09:08 PM   #1489
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      10-04-2023, 07:29 PM   #1490
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They did say it looks better in black, which is what I ordered. I’m so relieved they think my car is less ugly. 😎

It’s hard to take any comments these guys make as anything more than entertainment value.

It’s amazing how a bunch of reviewers say the G87 is too buttoned down and less fun, then these guys and others say it is mental ang goes sideways all the time with TC off.

That tells me it is a great car that will react well to driver input.

As soon as I (we) get the car reviews will be forgotten. I just watch them now because mine is not built yet.
All these youtube reviews are self fulling prophecies. Every single video says the same shit…. M2 ugly, hate the color, no steering feel, fl5 > g87. Yet the m2 is turning out better ring times than the fl5 ctr.

Many of us don’t have access to the cars yet and so the legend continues to grow from hearsay. I think that’s a shame. We are entering the last ERA of ICE and the reviewers are all focusing on the past. We should be celebrating the fact that BMW still giving us a choice of a 2 dr 4 seats 460hp rwd manual car for $64k. Buy them while you still can.
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Stop watching 'car' people who do not matter.
How do you define "car people" who matter, and who doesn't? What happens when someone you think matters says something you disagree with? Or if they crap on the looks of YOUR car? Do you have another meltdown like you did here, and add them to your "don't matter" list? Get over yourself dude, different people are going to have different opinions about different cars. No reason to lose your mind over it.
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Good overall review from Moto-Man. I don't know if he did it on purpose, but he filled the car with AKI 87 instead of 93, which was also available at the pump he used (you can see near the end that he paid $3.339 per gallon, as shown as the 87 price), definitely a no-no.
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I think all the reviews are doing it wrong, it's not new M2 vs the last M2, it should be new M2 vs the 1M. And not 0-60 data, but how each are to live with after a month. Is reduced steering feedback a willing sacrifice if the bumps in the road don't hurt your kidneys, things like that. At comparable costs to buy each today, which is the keeper. Would like to see these kinds of reviews but so far, nope.
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