[Tag]

Originally Posted by JustChris

Days after first deliveries. Oh man, harsh 🤪
We all knew it was coming of course so no harm no foul.

BMW knows early G87 adopters already have deposits down for an M2 CS. Those EAs get to drive the base model for a couple of years and then trade up. Everyone's happy... that is until the CSL comes out; these same people will also have a deposit down on that model as well. BMW understands its customer demographic quite well.

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

That rear integrated rear spoiler is MUCH TOO CHUNKY for those wide hips & big thick G87 but (no pun intended - it's true).

But that hood is sexy (from what we can see this far)...

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Tag

BMW knows early G87 adopters already have deposits down for an M2 CS. Those EAs get to drive the base model for a couple of years and then trade up. Everyone's happy... that is until the CSL comes out; these same people will also have a deposit down on that model as well. BMW understands its customer demographic quite well.

I am fairly confident that BMW will not offer a G87 CS and a CSL. It is one or the other, not both, especially when we go by example of the G80/G82.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

I am fairly confident that BMW will not offer a G87 CS and a CSL. It is one or the other, not both, especially when we go by example of the G80/G82.

I don't for one second believe they will be selling the same G80/82 model lineup as is for the next 4yrs.

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by M2Cmtl

For sure the CS is auto.

For sure I'm out if no MT. I don't feel all that sad giving the CSL back.

[Bimmerfun82]

That was fast.

[kyrix1st]

Man no xdrive 4000 lbs bullsht plz. MT is good, and the rumored DCT+S58 combo from GRMN Supra would be really nice.

[M2PDX]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

Pre-order cancelled

Careful there Raven. Lol.

This is one spy shot from months ago with no hard and fast details from BMW just as the world is about to go into a major recession. A lot of uncertainty here.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by M2Cmtl

For sure the CS is auto.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Tag

I don't for one second believe they will be selling the same G80/82 model lineup as is for the next 4yrs.

There will be technical updates with the G80/82 LCI. I think we pretty much have to expect it given the recent dyno results of the base G87.

Let me reiterate, the CS and CSL are limited production models. We know this to be fact. They will never be massed produced and most certainly not as we approach the demise of ICE.

Just as an example, the F90 is the last full ICE M5 and it is tapping out with the CS. If you recall it was offered with a base, comp and post LCI the CS.

[bromudez]

Probably skipping the Competition version since the base M2 is already nipping at the heels of the M4. It’s already too similar of a car.

What improvements would the M2 Competition bring anyway? xDrive? That would basically make the M2 vs M4 choice a no-brainer for many, especially people who aren’t too keen on the beaver teeth as a design element.

If you want xDrive, BMW will make you wait for the M2 CS or upsell you into an M3/4.

[KevM2]

CS definitely not worth the price difference vs OG for some minor cosmetic changes, a CS badge and perhaps a small tune…. I doubt they’ll be able to drop the weight much

[Tag]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

There will be technical updates with the G80/82 LCI. I think we pretty much have to expect it given the recent dyno results of the base G87.

Let me reiterate, the CS and CSL are limited production models. We know this to be fact. They will never be massed produced and most certainly not as we approach the demise of ICE.

Just as an example, the F90 is the last full ICE M5 and it is tapping out with the CS. If you recall it was offered with a base, comp and post LCI the CS.

I never said anything about them being mass produced. I don't understand what you're getting at.

[AZ-Wildcat]

Well that didn’t take long

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Tag

I never said anything about them being mass produced. I don't understand what you're getting at.

There will not be a G87 CS and a CSL. Unrealistic, especially on an entry-level M model. As aforementioned, it will be one or the other, not both.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

There will not be a G87 CS and a CSL. Unrealistic, especially on an entry-level M model. As aforementioned, it will be one or the other, not both.

There may or may not be one, no one knows what BMW is going to do with this car which will be in production for the next 6yrs until 07/29.

[F87inJAX]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

There will not be a G87 CS and a CSL. Unrealistic, especially on an entry-level M model. As aforementioned, it will be one or the other, not both.

Do you think they’ll do a Comp and a CS/CSL, or do you buy the theory they’re going to skip the Comp and go straight to a CS? It seems weird for M to not do a Competition version of a car, even though I have no idea what they’d do to the current base to make it a Comp. Seems like they may have limited headroom to work with between the performance levels of the current base model and a CS.

[DailyDownshift]

Oh man, I just got my G87 haha

In all seriousness though this looks cool, forged wheels standard, carbon hood with vents, carbon mirror caps, more aggressive splitter and a bigger wang/diffuser.. looks good! Probably going to have another 30-50hp too.

[DailyDownshift]

Originally Posted by F87inJAX

Do you think they’ll do a Comp and a CS/CSL, or do you buy the theory they’re going to skip the Comp and go straight to a CS? It seems weird for M to not do a Competition version of a car, even though I have no idea what they’d do to the current base to make it a Comp. Seems like they may have limited headroom to work with between the performance levels of the current base model and a CS.

I could totally see them doing a CS next year based on the current G87, then come out with a comp xdrive in 3 years, then a CSL xdrive a year after comp. That's my bet.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Tag

There may or may not be one, no one knows what BMW is going to do with this car which will be in production for the next 6yrs until 07/29.

Agreed. Irregardless, I still feel it would be a big stretch to expect both.

[F87inJAX]

Originally Posted by Daily Downshift

Oh man, I just got my G87 haha

In all seriousness though this looks cool, forged wheels standard, carbon hood with vents, carbon mirror caps, more aggressive splitter and a bigger wang/diffuser.. looks good! Probably going to have another 30-50hp too.

Does the car need a bigger wang?

[F87inJAX]

Originally Posted by Daily Downshift

I could totally see them doing a CS next year based on the current G87, then come out with a comp xdrive in 3 years, then a CSL xdrive a year after comp. That's my bet.

I definitely can’t foresee a CS coming out before a Comp. They seem to always go by pecking order. But then I’m no authority on the history of M, so maybe I missed something.

[AmuroRay]

///M just stands for milking Marketing.