[Reddevils7]

Originally Posted by kyrix1st

Man no xdrive 4000 lbs bullsht plz. MT is good, and the rumored DCT+S58 combo from GRMN Supra would be really nice.

That's not actually happening is it? I might actually consider selling my f87cs for a s58/dct supra. Otherwise I don't think I'd get any of the newest bimmers. I like the m4csl but for the price I'd get a certified 991 gt3

[fanofbmwe46]

Ah, I guess I’m trading in my ‘23 G80.. but only if this comes in 6spd.

[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by JEM3

That's so sad. G87 M2CS was the one I really wanted... with a 6spd.

Looks like F87 M2CS it is...

The 3.0 CSL is MT so there is always hope. BMW would be shoting themselves in the foot if they don’t release a higher variant with MT considering the amount of ‘enthusiasts’ being drawn onto the G87 platform. There is a chance it might be called something else other than ‘CS’

Even Porsche went back to providng MT on their GT3s. Toyota came back out with MT on the Supra. To be honest, I always thought it was dumb for Toyota not to offer MT on the Supra when it was first released but at least hey have it now. An S58 Supra woukd be the ultimate

[ResIpsaLoquitur]

Originally Posted by BMA89

I’m already first on my dealers list. What harm can it cause!

In addition to, or in replacement of, your M5CS?

[mzcp]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

The hard reality is it is true.

I don't think anyone would know now. Look at the 3.0 CSL MT. Who could have predicted that?

[Lex Templar]

Originally Posted by mzcp

I don't think anyone would know now. Look at the 3.0 CSL MT. Who could have predicted that?

This is true, but you have to remember the 3.0 CSL is a car that will cost up to 5 times the price of a G87 M2cs depending on which country you are in. Having said that, the gearbox HAS been produced I guess.

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

Even Porsche went back to providng MT on their GT3s. Toyota came back out with MT on the Supra. To be honest, I always thought it was dumb for Toyota not to offer MT on the Supra when it was first released but at least hey have it now. An S58 Supra woukd be the ultimate

Maaaaybe? That Supra chassis is already a bit twitchy, adding ever more HP and TQ to it presents some problems. And sure they can upgrade the chassis, but that's gonna add either more weight or more cost. If the Supra gets the S58 but then costs $75K, is it still viable in the market?

[mzcp]

Originally Posted by Lex Templar

This is true, but you have to remember the 3.0 CSL is a car that will cost up to 5 times the price of a G87 M2cs depending on which country you are in. Having said that, the gearbox HAS been produced I guess.

There is a reason they kept the same 406 pound feet torque limit. I had the same 550 hp as the 3.0 CSL with 450-460 pound feet torque on my G80. It was making some clunking noise at WOT. Ended removing the piggyback.

[BMA89]

Originally Posted by ResIpsaLoquitur

In addition to, or in replacement of, your M5CS?

Addition. Won’t ever part with my M5CS it’s too special in my eyes!

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by fanofbmwe46

Ah, I guess I’m trading in my ‘23 G80.. but only if this comes in 6spd.

Why did you get the G80 if you are trading it for the G87?
Probably could have gotten a better deal on the G82 (vs. G80)

[F87EVO]

Originally Posted by zero21

The LCI in late '25 will bring hybrid system being adopted by the G80, G82, etc.

WHAT?

So after '25 , all M cars will have a hybrid system ?

[Erebor]

Originally Posted by mzcp

I don't know if we will ever get a review of the 3.0 CSL MT. What was upgraded to support 553 hp? Torque remained the same at 406 pound feet.

Nothing is the answer. The transmission has to be replaced every 50k km. Yes, that sounds ridiculous. No, it's not a joke.

[dezzracer]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

manual car = no acc possible
automatic = optional.

can't draw any conclusions from the pic.

No modern CS to date has received the manual. One thing for sure it won’t have an OG DCT. Everyone has accepted the ZF because they had too. It’s good but it’s not the “real deal”. Hood vent say CS. Turn in grip on 3rd pic says CS. CS models are famous for it.

[dezzracer]

Originally Posted by g21

churning out cars like ice cream ahead of the emissions ban

And people are scooping them up like ice cream.

[Jimjamz]

Originally Posted by KevM2

CS definitely not worth the price difference vs OG for some minor cosmetic changes, a CS badge and perhaps a small tune…. I doubt they’ll be able to drop the weight much

Pretty sure no one runs this line anymore. It’s been well and truly put to bed with the last 3 CS releases.

[Jimjamz]

Originally Posted by JEM3

That's so sad. G87 M2CS was the one I really wanted... with a 6spd.

Looks like F87 M2CS it is...

If the 3.0 CSL can be 6 spd manual why can’t the M2 CS? May as well get some return on the manual R&D.

[robopp]

Originally Posted by dezzracer

No modern CS to date has received the manual. One thing for sure it won’t have an OG DCT. Everyone has accepted the ZF because they had too. It’s good but it’s not the “real deal”. Hood vent say CS. Turn in grip on 3rd pic says CS. CS models are famous for it.

F87 M2CS offered a manual

[F87EVO]

Irrelevant , but wow - sizewise

[zero21]

Originally Posted by Squidget

Maaaaybe? That Supra chassis is already a bit twitchy, adding ever more HP and TQ to it presents some problems. And sure they can upgrade the chassis, but that's gonna add either more weight or more cost. If the Supra gets the S58 but then costs $75K, is it still viable in the market?

Not to mention this rumor is going on 18months, and without a single shred of evidence.

[zero21]

Originally Posted by Erebor

Nothing is the answer. The transmission has to be replaced every 50k km. Yes, that sounds ridiculous. No, it's not a joke.

Any evidence to support this?

[DB_Cooper]

Originally Posted by Basketcase

I hope this isn’t true even though I know the probability is very high… but I still have high hopes that BMW knows it’s audience enough to know that the people paying CS money would love it in a 6MT like the last one. That was one of the common comments in the F87 CS reviews, was that they offered it in a manual option which was not expected. I actually think they may do it again. If so, that will be the end goal car for sure as a keeper. I don’t think cars will get much better than that in the future

Fairly certain that currently, BMW does NOT know its audience.

[turbowilly]

I am getting my base G87 from a fairly small dealership. If they even have a list started for this potential CS should I go ahead and put my name on it or wait until it’s officially announced. Obviously we don’t know the pricing at all yet.