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Thanks for the write up. This is what enthusiast forums are all about! Enjoy your car in good health.
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Yes BMW mentioned this was the last ICE manual M car. In one of the early videos with BMW, they said that having a manual at all in this car was of great internal debate. That's why a lot of us believe that the next version of the M2 will be auto only, similar to the M3/M4 comps. If you want a manual M2, get one now, or when they're available used. No guarantees for tomorrow. And trust us owners when we say that her shortfalls with the 6MT are greatly exaggerated.
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So you get a two-fer here. Likely the last manual, likely the last pure ICE. We can hope that the G87 retains the manual for its entire lifecycle, but that's not guaranteed. |
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05-22-2023, 11:29 AM | #28 |
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Ok so G87 MT should be the same as G80 and I think it is a good manual transmission, interested in where your M2s clutch engages
I think the clutch engagement on M3 varies in sport vs other modes, And yes my cars live above 4K RPM for upshifts as did during break in period. Got my 1200 mile service completed this past week. MTs are such joy to drive |
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05-22-2023, 12:57 PM | #33 |
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My F87 M2C was setup with the MPERFORMANCE suspension. Fixed all the issues with rear end stability and made car feel very pleasant around forced movement this was in stock MPSS BMW * rated tires.
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I had a 2021 G80 6MT, and I loved it. It was my dream to own and M3, and my G80 was my first ever BMW. But…I grew up driving manual transmissions (I’m 45 now) and found that the MT in my G80 was a bit of a pain in the ass at times. The clutch had a very long release point and the gears on the shifter seemed a bit squishy to me at times. I am expecting to receive my G87 in just a few weeks, and am eager and excited to do so, but if the MT in the G87 is the same as my G80 was, it won’t be a point that I’m bragging about to anyone. |
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BMW shifters are little rubbery but I never had trouble getting into the proper gate. They are... ok? Workable, but lack the aesthetic pleasure of the snickty-snickt short throw gearboxes. S2000s, Miatas, etc. it's OK, only OK. The clutch is less good. The release point is weird, the travel is long, the CDVs that BMW insists on using do no favors. Aftermarket fixes exist of course, but if we are talking about stock, there's nothing to brag about here. |
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You explained everything to the last detail, the s58 weither fully tuned or de-tuned still an impressive drivetrain, i saw the G87 in person 2 weeks ago, believe me its a beautiful looking ride, enjoy it bro and be safe.
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IIRC the previous gen M2 had a MT take rate of about 50% in the US, and under 10% everywhere else. The take rate in the M240 wasn't enough so MT is gone there. I don't see why BMW would put any real money into MT development. I'm shocked the Z4 M40i has MT, that's a super low volume car, so I'm guessing that's a complete re-use of existing tech. |
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Any idea when the G87 competition is gonna be out? How soon can we expect an LCI?
I want to still enjoy my F87 M2C, only have 12K miles since 2019. I am open to embracing a G87C or LCI variant in the near future. I do want a little more playfulness, for planted ride I’d pick up the G80 but for a M2C I do expect a more lively experience, relatively speaking.
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The new G87 doesn’t come with M2 side badges?
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Business-wise, it's hard to figure out how a G87C could slot in above the base, but still below the G8x. There's already very little daylight between the G87 and its siblings. I guess they could bump the HP by 10ish (ugh) and make the handling "worse," but that doesn't seem like a compelling offering. Lacking any other info, I assume we'll get an LCI in 3-4-5 years. So, MY26-MY28. |
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Great review. Thanks is.
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