[02M3ForMe]

The soft plastic enclosure of old mechanical clusters makes no sense for digital screens. There's no reason for it beyond aesthetics, and even that's questionable. Screens embedded in dashboards will look dated very soon once the migration is complete. Think 1970s TV sets in wooden enclosures.

When looking at a screen, the surrounding enclosure quickly fades away. Everyone wants the very smallest bezels possible to minimize form factor and maximize screen size. For practically any other device except for cars, it's preposterous to think that adding a sizable decorative enclosure around the screen makes the user experience better in any way. I'd much rather have more screen real estate than a non-functional plastic/leather surround that I don't even visually register once I actually start driving.

Specific to ID8 and its associated hardware, the graphics and screen quality are top notch and clearly stamp it as the generation ahead of ID7. I would not bet on ID7 cars retaining any additional value over ID8 cars; on the contrary, I think they'll take a hit once people get used to late model BMWs coming with ID8+. I personally sold my 2022 G42 and am getting back in line for a 2023 specifically for ID8 (I've had a couple of opportunities to step back into a 2022 and have turned them all down).

[Quadruple VANOS]

Originally Posted by 02M3ForMe

The soft plastic enclosure of old mechanical clusters makes no sense for digital screens. There's no reason for it beyond aesthetics, and even that's questionable. Screens embedded in dashboards will look dated very soon once the migration is complete. Think 1970s TV sets in wooden enclosures.

When looking at a screen, the surrounding enclosure quickly fades away. Everyone wants the very smallest bezels possible to minimize form factor and maximize screen size. For practically any other device except for cars, it's preposterous to think that adding a sizable decorative enclosure around the screen makes the user experience better in any way.

This is exactly where I am at on this. The concept of surrounding the dashboard display with a needless binnacle is like 1996. An image floating in free space has been a desirable look in the home for decades. Cars are finally catching up.

[Hap]

I had a 2020 240i convertible. Thought would be more practical to go with a X3 40i as a replacement. Boy it is a very nice SUV but I missed the performance/driving fun of the 2 series. So went to order a new 2022 240i. When I was driving home from dealer I was very happy with the purchase. Learning I will be bumped to a 2023 and this new Idrive 8 is a total surprise. Seems they would wait for the next update of entire car. I don't like the change (at this point) I didn't buy the car for the interior design. I am buying AGAIN for the performance and the fun of driving this car model. I8 will be the new normal and we BMW people will adjust.

Hap

[soflacarguy]

Originally Posted by 02M3ForMe

The soft plastic enclosure of old mechanical clusters makes no sense for digital screens. There's no reason for it beyond aesthetics, and even that's questionable. Screens embedded in dashboards will look dated very soon once the migration is complete. Think 1970s TV sets in wooden enclosures.

When looking at a screen, the surrounding enclosure quickly fades away. Everyone wants the very smallest bezels possible to minimize form factor and maximize screen size. For practically any other device except for cars, it's preposterous to think that adding a sizable decorative enclosure around the screen makes the user experience better in any way. I'd much rather have more screen real estate than a non-functional plastic/leather surround that I don't even visually register once I actually start driving.

ID8's integration in the g42 is not cohesive. There's a reason the latest Tesla Model S Redesign added an embedded screen into the dashboard but haven't done so for the 3 or Y. It's desirable, more functional, and more expensive to manufacture.

Look at Rivian's dash - futuristic and embedded. You like the floating screen? Take a look at the Lucid Air - a floating screen Thats done right.

This ID8 integration into the g42 feels like a sloppy quick add in for savings in manufacturing as the priority. I'd wager the LCI will have it properly integrated likely in 2-3 years. We're going to have 3 versions of the g42 interior, and Id wager the difference in resale value on 22's and 23's will be peanuts compared to the LCI.

[krissh219]

Originally Posted by Cklam1209

after saw a new idrive 8 is coming on the 2 series, i think we need a poll to vote which one do you prefer on your car in future. my opinion i really don't like a idrive 8 and new gear shift.

My m240i is in quality check right now and is built in June, hopefully gets delivered in a month. I learnt that the model is built from July have iDrive 8. As a software I drive certainly is an upgrade from iDrive 7 in all aspects, but the led screen is a big let down. I don't like the led screen look at all specially with out the dome. I feel iDrive 8 on a previous dash with dome is the best mix. Also I am in a conflict if to order another one or to stick with the one which is under production. Can any one give some advice on this please? Also can we update to iDrive 8 from iDrive 7

[steelatx]

Just had a quick demo of idrive 8 at a bmw event and wow.. It's a lot. It seems buggy and slow compared to idrive 7 and these AC controls... It's too much. How is this safe to use while driving?

[tooly]

Originally Posted by steelatx

Just had a quick demo of idrive 8 at a bmw event and wow.. It's a lot. It seems buggy and slow compared to idrive 7 and these AC controls... It's too much. How is this safe to use while driving?

Lol that looks convoluted. So just at a quick glance… I have no idea what the climate controls are set to.

[steelatx]

In their defense, the bottom where it says low is the temp and it's always visible, but fan speed or any other climate information is buried in the menus. And you'll notice there aren't shortcut radio keys anymore so you literally have to go into the menu.

[Cklam1209]

Originally Posted by steelatx

Just had a quick demo of idrive 8 at a bmw event and wow.. It's a lot. It seems buggy and slow compared to idrive 7 and these AC controls... It's too much. How is this safe to use while driving?

I dont even like to click on every tiny symbol on the screen of Idrive 7 when i driving. Touchscreen works for typing, zoom in/out, swipe .... But everything we have to do with touvh screen is not a good idea 😂 imagine how annoy when we need to change tempeture or click to tiny symbol on the top right corner of the screen when driving 😂😢

[datalist]

I think the center console around the AC vents needs to be redesigned to go with the idrive 8, its obviously the just strapped the new display on with zero thought about design

[pbw]

Originally Posted by Cklam1209

I dont even like to click on every tiny symbol on the screen of Idrive 7 when i driving. Touchscreen works for typing, zoom in/out, swipe .... But everything we have to do with touvh screen is not a good idea 😂 imagine how annoy when we need to change tempeture or click to tiny symbol on the top right corner of the screen when driving 😂😢

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[Quadruple VANOS]

Originally Posted by steelatx

In their defense, the bottom where it says low is the temp and it's always visible, but fan speed or any other climate information is buried in the menus. And you'll notice there aren't shortcut radio keys anymore so you literally have to go into the menu.

There are still shortcut keys; they're software now.
BMW is leaning on voice control; and automation to provide a safe interface. Personally I don't like it, but that's obviously a key aspect of ID8.

[eddj]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

There are still shortcut keys; they're software now.
BMW is leaning on voice control; and automation to provide a safe interface. Personally I don't like it, but that's obviously a key aspect of ID8.

and another key aspect of ID8 seems the support to the 5G data connection; as ID7, hardware -wise I think was unable to provide support for this new upcoming technology...

[RPM33]

Originally Posted by steelatx

Just had a quick demo of idrive 8 at a bmw event and wow.. It's a lot. It seems buggy and slow compared to idrive 7 and these AC controls... It's too much. How is this safe to use while driving?

Too complicated and dangerous in a moving car.

[Hap]

Anyone with close up pic of the shifter area on the I8 ?
I cant se how it works or what is in the place of shifter lever ?

Hap

[tooly]

Originally Posted by Hap

Anyone with close up pic of the shifter area on the I8 ?
I cant se how it works or what is in the place of shifter lever ?

Hap

https://www.bimmerfile.com/2022/04/2...on-small-cars/

"The gear selector you see above feels like the inevitable conclusion to BMW's content evolution of the center console. Last week we had went hands-on with the new lever (which is a loose term) and found it to be surprisingly easy and even satisfying to use.

All the current functionality is still there including a sport mode which is engaged by pulling the lever back beyond the "D" engagement point. From there you can use the steering wheel paddles to change gears."

[Hap]

Thanks for the post...I guess I still don't see how it works. I will have to wait for the Youtube review !

Still waiting for allocation..
Hap

[OriginalFake]

Originally Posted by Hap

Thanks for the post...I guess I still don't see how it works. I will have to wait for the Youtube review !

Still waiting for allocation..
Hap

It's basically a switch that you pull towards you to make the different selections, as far as I can see.

[tooly]

Originally Posted by OriginalFake

It's basically a switch that you pull towards you to make the different selections, as far as I can see.

Yeah… think of it like a light switch that toggles back and forth

[hutchsoclutch]

Can you simply turn the car off and have it go automatically into park like my Giulia?

[TJZ67201]

Originally Posted by hutchsoclutch

Can you simply turn the car off and have it go automatically into park like my Giulia?

I would assume so. It's like that with the iDrive 7 shifter. Even if you have the shifter moved over to the left for sport shifting, it will also flip back to the middle on its own when turning the car off (as well as switching into park and setting the parking brake)

[hutchsoclutch]

Originally Posted by TJZ67201

I would assume so. It's like that with the iDrive 7 shifter. Even if you have the shifter moved over to the left for sport shifting, it will also flip back to the middle on its own when turning the car off (as well as switching into park and setting the parking brake)

Nice! I always love seeing it pop itself out of manual mode haha. Realistically I think the new shifter set up will be totally functional and natural after the first few days with the car