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Likely CCB will be a for-cost option. On the M4 CS in Canada it is a $10.900 (USD$7,900) option on top of the $165K (USD$120K) base price.
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Not a CSL so my guess is it will be just has heavy (or heavier!) as the other G87s but with more power—and no manual. Unfortunate…
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08-06-2024, 04:42 PM | #94 |
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So the headlight design isn’t changing.Any new pics of the taillights?The old CS spy pics had them covered.Just wondering if they might update those for the MY26 production year.
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F87 on net wasn’t a big reduction, as many of the carbon bits were additions vs replacements…but CCBs were a big unsprung mass reduction and CF roof lowered center of gravity, on top of addition of active dampers which added weight back…so you basically got “more stuff” for a little less weight, but more power to help and overall better weight distribution. Also, interior upgrades at the time were seemingly small but in reality massive - going from Dakota to Marino leather, adding the carbon transmission tunnel, M4 seats and alcantara everywhere with red stitching really made the interior feel “special” vs M2C. I think that jump is going to be harder to achieve now given how much better the base interior is.
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08-06-2024, 05:27 PM | #96 | |
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its going to have the front end carrier hubs from the M3 CS, and additional bracing, plus the extra power. new wheels etc. Basically a mini M4 CS but RWD
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Hmmm I mean I love everything but the automatic transmission only part. Bummmer.
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525HP is a big number. The M division knocks it out of the park with the CS models. I’m going to say it will start base around low 90s with CCBs putting it over $100K. I’m tempted to put in a deposit, but with auto only, I don’t think I can justify six figures. |
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Having the same thought. Roughly 90lbs lighter than the M4 (or whatever the xdrive weighs) - the rest is existing CS parts bin.
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EVO, throttle house and many others disagree that the G87 is a huge improvement in every aspect or any improvement for that matter. Many still call the F87CS the best modern BMW (M5 CS gets named a bit also). The other CS models are all fantastic in their own right if you want a bigger car. For the record, I really like the G87. |
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Curb weight of the F87 CS is about 3450 and just around 3800 for the g87, do the math yourself if you don't believe me. No denying the performance of the G8x platform, that's why it hides its weight so well. G87 is 4 inches longer with 2 inch longer wheelbase compared to the F87. My point was that they're making what's supposed to be the small performance coupe into a larger and larger car
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Blah, Blah, Blah.... you guys bitch about everything. The car will come out and youtube guys will shit all over it and they will sell like hotcakes and real consumers will buy them and appreciate what BMW achieved with a great platform. Everyone now are so detached from what cars are built to do in reality.
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The EDC just helps make it a more complaint street car. You're right they're the sames ones from the F8x comp. It's the alignment, cup 2s, significant drop in unsprung mass with CCBs/wheels, lower center of gravity and CS software tuning for steering/dampers that makes the real difference compared to a regular F87C. In terms of power, the G87 is relatively equal to the CS. So the new CS will definitely be a welcome upgrade in that department but imagine what a significant improvement the car could've been if they managed to keep the weight within 100lbs |
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Numbers aren't subjective.
I have way more fun in my CS than I did any of the times driving a G87. Turn all the nannies off and it certainly doesn't have the same raw/analog feelings as the CS. So I guess it doesn't do everything better lol if you're trying to give a novice driver a car to drive fast, they'd go way faster in the G87. But if you know what you're doing you'll enjoy the CS more. I'm only talking stock out of the box cars btw, like I said the G87 platform is very capable |
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