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      12-09-2022, 07:32 AM   #111
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Any US allocation?
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      12-09-2022, 07:34 AM   #112
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Any us allocation ?
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      12-09-2022, 07:53 AM   #113
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Dealers start opening around 9am on East Coast
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      12-09-2022, 08:11 AM   #114
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Dealers start opening around 9am on East Coast
We arrive prior to that. 8-830a for some of us.

Nothing on my end.
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      12-09-2022, 08:19 AM   #115
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We arrive prior to that. 8-830a for some of us.

Nothing on my end.
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      12-09-2022, 08:28 AM   #116
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Another day of mourning
Morning of mourning. It's ok, I'm buying a new daily to tide me over
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      12-09-2022, 08:36 AM   #117
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Maybe they will drop sometime during the day? Or is it always first thing in the morning?
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      12-09-2022, 12:40 PM   #118
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Not sure what time they drop. As of now there is still nothing in the US.
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      12-09-2022, 01:41 PM   #119
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Maybe they will drop sometime during the day? Or is it always first thing in the morning?
No they can be pretty sporadic throughout the day.
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      12-09-2022, 01:51 PM   #120
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No they can be pretty sporadic throughout the day.
I'm hitting refresh every hour on the hour. Lol
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      12-09-2022, 01:55 PM   #121
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No they can be pretty sporadic throughout the day.

I have a sneaky suspicion that we (U.S.) are not going to see anything until January. I’m hoping that I am proven wrong.
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      12-09-2022, 02:01 PM   #122
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I have a sneaky suspicion that we (U.S.) are not going to see anything until January. I’m hoping that I am proven wrong.
same, well someone on FB who says they work at a dealer in France also says that US won’t get any till early Jan.
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      12-09-2022, 02:23 PM   #123
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same, well someone on FB who says they work at a dealer in France also says that US won’t get any till early Jan.
With the information below I suspect the G87 will see production steadily increase.

The 2023 M2 is scheduled to go on sale in the US in April 2023. That same month BMW plans to add a second shift at the factory, adding 500 jobs. Article link: https://www.motor1.com/news/625865/2...rs-production/
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With the information below I suspect the G87 will see production steadily increase.

The 2023 M2 is scheduled to go on sale in the US in April 2023. That same month BMW plans to add a second shift at the factory, adding 500 jobs. Article link: https://www.motor1.com/news/625865/2023-bmw-m2-enters-production/
Agreed. As long as I get my car in April, I’m Gucci 🤝🏻
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I have a sneaky suspicion that we (U.S.) are not going to see anything until January. I’m hoping that I am proven wrong.
The salesman I’m ordering with said this about a month ago and he’s the most knowledgeable salesperson I’ve ever dealt with
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      12-09-2022, 02:49 PM   #126
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The salesman I’m ordering with said this about a month ago and he’s the most knowledgeable salesperson I’ve ever dealt with
A rarity amongst most BMW client advisors. Hold onto him!
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      12-09-2022, 03:47 PM   #127
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Fixed it for you.

What annoys me is repeatedly seeing the same colors at literally every red light. You basically stated those colors above.
Funny thing is whenever anyone asks what color they should get their car it’s almost always one of the following: red, white, gray/silver, black. And I’m like none. Get a non boring color. I’m this case we are stuck as the least boring color isn’t my taste and then the second choice is the common sports car color.
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      12-09-2022, 07:19 PM   #128
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Does anyone know what a user fee is on an purchase agreement? Is it another way of saying adm?
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      12-09-2022, 07:47 PM   #129
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Does anyone know what a user fee is on an purchase agreement? Is it another way of saying adm?
Any fee that’s on there is some dealership pocket money.
Only fee that’s required is a fee for registration and plates.
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      12-09-2022, 08:03 PM   #130
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Any fee that’s on there is some dealership pocket money.
Only fee that’s required is a fee for registration and plates.
The doc fee is fairly standard within the industry. It is non-negotiable.
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      12-10-2022, 11:16 AM   #131
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The doc fee is fairly standard within the industry. It is non-negotiable.
Yes and no.

In many states, by law the same "doc fee" must be charged on all transactions. Dealers LOVE this - they point this out and shut down any attempt to negotiate it downward or eliminate it entirely.

But just because that fee is "non-negotiable", doesn't mean that the out-the-door, bottom-line price you're paying for the car isn't. That fee is 100% dealer profit. If you're buying a high-demand car that the dealer knows they'll sell almost immediately if you walk, then yeah good luck negotiating the amount of that fee out of your final deal. But if you're buying a high volume car off the lot - like an F-150 for example - you can absolutely include that figure in your negotiating when getting the price down as far as you can. You simply refuse to pay the additional amount and they can either reduce the bottom line by that amount, or negotiate something that gives up part of it. Or you can walk and go to another dealer that will give you a better final price. They are still charging you that fee so they're in compliance with the law - but taking a lower total for the car. Good luck making this happen on an M2 anytime soon though.
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      12-10-2022, 11:19 AM   #132
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I mean that’s what I’m saying. These are artificial fees that just go to the dealer. So they are markups. Maybe you can’t negotiate that one but there are all kinds of other fees that get tacked on.
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