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      10-09-2024, 11:22 AM   #1
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Suspension Sport/Comfort Mode

Has anyone here had an issue with these settings. I was at the track and the car was very loose. I was in Sport mode. Then after a few sessions I changed the Sport to Comfort back to Sport and no difference. Even drove it on the street to see if there was a change which there wasn't. Took it in to the dealer and went for a test drive with the tech and he felt the same. He said if no codes present no fix. And of course no codes. I told the dealer to get BMW involved in this and that I don't want this car back until it is repaired. Just wondering if anyone here has had this issue. Will update.
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      10-09-2024, 01:59 PM   #2
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Has anyone here had an issue with these settings. I was at the track and the car was very loose. I was in Sport mode. Then after a few sessions I changed the Sport to Comfort back to Sport and no difference. Even drove it on the street to see if there was a change which there wasn't. Took it in to the dealer and went for a test drive with the tech and he felt the same. He said if no codes present no fix. And of course no codes. I told the dealer to get BMW involved in this and that I don't want this car back until it is repaired. Just wondering if anyone here has had this issue. Will update.
To double check find a bumpy road, lean your head all the way back against the headrest and switch between the modes. Your head will be shaking around all over the place if it’s go the adaptive suspension and you’re in sport.

Other things to check
- double check you have the adaptive suspension option
- check you’re not in sport individual with the suspension in comfort.

You can do this in the drive mode settings.
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      10-09-2024, 02:54 PM   #3
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I had the same problem. Thank you for this!
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      10-09-2024, 03:13 PM   #4
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To double check find a bumpy road, lean your head all the way back against the headrest and switch between the modes. Your head will be shaking around all over the place if it’s go the adaptive suspension and you’re in sport.

Other things to check
- double check you have the adaptive suspension option
- check you’re not in sport individual with the suspension in comfort.

You can do this in the drive mode settings.
This is something new that has happened. I do have adaptive suspension and it used to work. Yes, you do notice the change, but not anymore. This car was a boat on the track, plenty of oversteer too much oversteer. I had my hands full controlling the vehicle without spinning or going off track. By the way suspension was set in sport. All my settings are maxed out when I track. Sport ++, etc

BTY this was not my first track event it was my 9th.

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      10-09-2024, 07:48 PM   #5
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I have not experienced this and I was up in the mountains just last week doing quite a bit of spirited driving. I do wish that there was a bigger difference in suspension firmness between Sport and Sport Plus tho - I could tolerate a bit more ride stiffness if it reduced the body roll a bit more ............
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If you watch the dude who drives the nurburgring a bunch he's taken the 240 out in a few forms, all of them he says the suspension is too soft in sport.

Will be interesting to try it out when I get my car, but I'm already looking at springs and coils... not interested in much lower but many people say springs improve this car and that's quite unusual.

Sounds like OP knows their car well and is having a function problem with the adaptive struts.
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      10-09-2024, 10:18 PM   #7
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I have not experienced this and I was up in the mountains just last week doing quite a bit of spirited driving. I do wish that there was a bigger difference in suspension firmness between Sport and Sport Plus tho - I could tolerate a bit more ride stiffness if it reduced the body roll a bit more ............
I do understand that there is not a big difference between these settings, however I have no difference between these settings. Going to interesting to see what the dealer finds out and tells me in the end.
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      10-11-2024, 11:34 PM   #8
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The dealer tech verified the complaint with me when i dropped the vehicle off. Today the dealer told me pick up your vehicle we can't fix it. The Texas Lemon Law is only good for 24 months or 24k miles whichever comes first. My car is 29 months old. Taking it to another dealer next week.
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      10-12-2024, 06:26 AM   #9
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Just curious, why is a lemon law issue and not simply a warranty issue? If they confirmed the problem shouldn't they fix it under warranty or are you out of warranty on mileage?
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Just curious, why is a lemon law issue and not simply a warranty issue? If they confirmed the problem shouldn't they fix it under warranty or are you out of warranty on mileage?
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That dealer is jerking you around. This has absolutely nothing to do with a lemon law and should be covered under warranty if you still have one. Also wtf is “we can’t fix it”, um yes you can fix and will fix it.

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      10-12-2024, 10:06 AM   #11
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Lemon law is something completely different depending on state but this sounds like a warranty issue to me if you have one.
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      10-12-2024, 10:31 AM   #12
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Yes this vehicle is still under warranty. The Lemon Law is in place if a defect can't be repaired in a certain number of attempts while under warranty. Yes the dealer is jerking me around. They blame it on tires and track brakes. That has nothing to do with the electron dampening not switching. The interesting part is they never said it is working as designed. Hopefully the other dealer can figure it out if not I'm selling it.
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BMW dealers just keep getting worse and worse
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      10-12-2024, 12:06 PM   #14
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BMW dealers just keep getting worse and worse
It's not just BMW It's all dealers. Hard for them to find good help. Today's techs are just part changers, they have no idea how to troubleshoot.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you do notice a change in Damping from Comfort to Sport and visa versa.

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It's not just BMW It's all dealers. Hard for them to find good help. Today's techs are just part changers, they have no idea how to troubleshoot.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you do notice a change in Damping from Comfort to Sport and visa versa.
I definitely notice a change in changing the modes. I recently coded comfort plus which makes the suspension even softer and it’s very noticeable.
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I definitely notice a change in changing the modes. I recently coded comfort plus which makes the suspension even softer and it’s very noticeable.
Thank you for this info, I thought I was losing my mind. Well, I am losing my mind. This is so weird. I sure hope the next dealer figures it out. I believe it is in the software.
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Would be extremely unlikely that all four valves in the struts would fail simultaneously.

I wonder if the dealer can refresh the software back to "factory" like a hard reset on a phone.
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Would be extremely unlikely that all four valves in the struts would fail simultaneously.

I wonder if the dealer can refresh the software back to "factory" like a hard reset on a phone.
I asked them to do a refresh on the software but they refused. I asked them why and they said they didn't think that was the problem. They seemed like they didn't want to deal with me since I track it. The only mods are the skid plate, camber kits, and track pads.
I agree with you about the valves in the struts. If any were bad, or had an open or shorted circuit there would be a code.
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To add more fuel to the fire, I had my car in to the dealer last week for the 1st complimentary oil/filter change and check up. It went smooth as can be and they even gave me Uber lifts both ways since they were slammed and didn't want me to wait too long.

Anyways, when I got it back it was very evident that the shift points in sport mode were different than before: Much crisper downshifts and it now seems to downshift higher in the RPM range than before. I had all of the latest updates installed (that I could do) before taking it in.

Just a guess but when the dealer hooked it up to their computer, some kind of update must have happened over and beyond what is available to me the owner so it makes me wonder if your car has some kind of software issue and maybe just updating it via their computer would do the trick? I have seen posts where folks are claiming some of the updates they are doing themselves have negatively affected their cars and they no longer do any updates............I would like to think that they don't change things like that but nowadays with everything being electronically controlled, who knows what changes they can make to our cars.
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To add more fuel to the fire, I had my car in to the dealer last week for the 1st complimentary oil/filter change and check up. It went smooth as can be and they even gave me Uber lifts both ways since they were slammed and didn't want me to wait too long.

Anyways, when I got it back it was very evident that the shift points in sport mode were different than before: Much crisper downshifts and it now seems to downshift higher in the RPM range than before. I had all of the latest updates installed (that I could do) before taking it in.

Just a guess but when the dealer hooked it up to their computer, some kind of update must have happened over and beyond what is available to me the owner so it makes me wonder if your car has some kind of software issue and maybe just updating it via their computer would do the trick? I have seen posts where folks are claiming some of the updates they are doing themselves have negatively affected their cars and they no longer do any updates............I would like to think that they don't change things like that but nowadays with everything being electronically controlled, who knows what changes they can make to our cars.
I have not done any updates myself. None have been offered to me. I will see what the other dealer does this week. Hopefully they will do some update, I believe that is the issue. If not someone will own this car other than me.
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Now I notice no difference in the steering configurations as well as the engine configurations. I also lost my connection to my phone 2 days ago. No auto android. Going back to when I bought this car my friend asked what date I ordered it and it was during Mercury Retrograde which I never heard of until he told me. Then this car got damaged in transit and so far until now this car has been good to me. I dropped the car off today at another dealer. I have a loaner a 230 which sounds like a sewing machine and I hate that there are no knobs except for radio volume and no switches. Was considering a 25 my but I will look elsewhere. Maybe CTR or the Integra Type S. Haven't seen any up close. Not sure what else.
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I hate that there are no knobs except for radio volume and no switches.
This did bother me on my '23 and I did regret not signing on the '22 that I had a chance on, but I have since gotten used to the screen. I find the automatic climate is good enough I barely need to go into the menu, even for seats which remember the last setting in the auto climate mode. Of all things, I miss the console shifter the most, and I've considered retrofitting one with the shifter in my car...maybe.

At the end of the day, though, get what you enjoy. The unfortunate thing is you will not find another small RWD biased AWD car other than the M240i. Either you're moving into a somewhat larger vehicle (Infiniti coupe, 4 Series, Audi S5 which is now going 4 door only). RWD opens up more options. Or if you're looking at CTR, clearly FWD doesn't bother you.
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