BMW 0W-40 hits the shelves

MasterC17 · 04-20-2015, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MaynardZed

The F8X coolant temps do not seem rise at all even under extreme conditions at the track, but does anyone know if there is a way check oil temps in the iDrive system? I know the newer Corvettes have this ability, would think the M3/4 does too. Coolant temps and oil temps can be drastically different.

If oil temps rise more than we realize, the 0W-40 oil would be an advantage.

I presume you are aware the gauge on the right side is the OIL temp gauge, not the coolant gauge? There is no way through the iDrive to check coolant temp, however it can be done easily through OBD.

M3ANS55 · 05-08-2015, 03:25 PM

has anyone confirmed through their dealer that this is an approved oil that can be used during warranty oil changes? or is this a i can order this for you and you can pay out of pocket for it?
im intrigued because i work at a dealer ive called multiple dealers and nobody has any idea about this stuff, except for that it has a part number

Warranty P · 05-09-2015, 05:51 AM

Do I have to use Shell's 5W-30 or can I use any 5W-30 Synthetic?

gatorfast · 05-10-2015, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Warranty Pussy

Do I have to use Shell's 5W-30 or can I use any 5W-30 Synthetic?

Cant be any 5w-30, it must meet BMW LL-01 approval.

Cloud9blue · 05-29-2015, 03:38 PM

Someone needs to do a virgin oil analysis on these to see how these Shell sourced oil stack up against some of the common oil for this car, i.e. Mobil 1 and Castrol Edge 0w40.

nicknaz · 06-26-2015, 09:22 PM

I wanted to buy a quart of this 0w40 to keep in the trunk but my local dealer only stocks the 5w30. Anyone have any tech on the differences it makes?

Should I order the 0w40 and insist that get used for the oil changes? In theory I agree higher viscosity is better for engines run hard but is there truly a difference here?

RocketBoots · 06-26-2015, 09:39 PM

I don't think there's any definitive answer to that, by a long shot. I just bought 7 quarts for my in-between oil change. I doubt I will notice any change from the 5-30 the dealer put in. Just wanted the M-specific oil to try out. Also, I was gonna get shell euro-spec oil, but it isn't any cheaper than the BMW branded stuff, so I went with BMW. If it suddenly feels like I got a JB4 tune, I'll let everyone know.

aus · 06-27-2015, 01:22 AM

Interesting.
I wonder if it has any advantage to Mobil 1 0W40 that's been used in BMW, MB, Porsche and Ferrari for years? It's also $25 for 5 quarts at Walmart.

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gatorfast · 06-27-2015, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RocketBoots

I don't think there's any definitive answer to that, by a long shot. I just bought 7 quarts for my in-between oil change. I doubt I will notice any change from the 5-30 the dealer put in. Just wanted the M-specific oil to try out. Also, I was gonna get shell euro-spec oil, but it isn't any cheaper than the BMW branded stuff, so I went with BMW. If it suddenly feels like I got a JB4 tune, I'll let everyone know.

If anything, your car may feel slightly slower with a heavier viscosity oil. In actuality though you likely won't feel any difference as the 5w30 and 0w40 are close enough to be imperceptible.

morgan302 · 06-27-2015, 04:27 PM

The two weights are just operating ranges for the oil.

nicknaz · 07-02-2015, 06:42 PM

Anyone who's tracked their car have used oil analysis at this point? I'm particularly interested in whether the 5W30 shears down to a lower weight

Vigilant · 07-04-2015, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nicknaz

Anyone who's tracked their car have used oil analysis at this point? I'm particularly interested in whether the 5W30 shears down to a lower weight

I was thinking about the Blackstone analysis with my upcoming 10,000 mile service. I'll report back with results.

Fast4d · 08-07-2015, 01:23 PM

I will be using amsoil 0w-40 euro

is has all the ratings.

ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4
BMW LL-01

sh55 · 08-18-2015, 10:55 AM

I put the Shell 0W-40 in my M4 over the weekend and drove 200+ miles into Maine the next day.

Car feels exactly the same as it did with 5W-30, but I'm happy to have the ///M specific oil in there now. I'll be requesting it from my SA when I go on for 10K service.

nicknaz · 08-18-2015, 11:05 AM

quick bump.. this oil isn't available at my local socal dealer

xpunisherx · 10-02-2015, 09:13 AM

Anyone using Mobile 1 0W-40? It meets the same specifications as BMW oil (at least on the label). I am just curious as I approach my 5k mile mid service oil change. Thanks for any input.

TheFlyingMouse · 10-02-2015, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by xpunisherx

Anyone using Mobile 1 0W-40? It meets the same specifications as BMW oil (at least on the label). I am just curious as I approach my 5k mile mid service oil change. Thanks for any input.

Been using this in my 128 every 7.5k miles. Would not use anything else for my own oil changes after my experience running Mobil 1 in my E30 for 29 years. (Unless it doesn't meet spec for some reason).

Get a good quality (rare earth) magnetic drain plug! You'll thank yourself for not having shavings swimming around.

That being said, I think the M3 calls for 5W-40. 0W-40 might be on the approved list, but take a second look.

TheFlyingMouse · 10-02-2015, 11:01 AM

Checked the manual. 0W-40 is the official spec, with -30 as an option. My understanding is that BMW service techs are putting 5W-30 in our cars, at least in Europe on ED. What the heck?

EDIT:
Receipts say 0W-30. Phew. Must stop looking at other oil on the shelves!

xpunisherx · 10-02-2015, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TheFlyingMouse

Checked the manual. 0W-40 is the official spec, with -30 as an option. My understanding is that BMW service techs are putting 5W-30 in our cars, at least in Europe on ED. What the heck?

EDIT:
Receipts say 0W-30. Phew. Must stop looking at other oil on the shelves!

So then I'd say its probably safe to run Mobile 1 0w-40 as it meets BMW's LL-01 requirement.

TheFlyingMouse · 10-02-2015, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by xpunisherx

So then I'd say its probably safe to run Mobile 1 0w-40 as it meets BMW's LL-01 requirement.

If it meets BMW LL-01 then you're good to go. Don't have access to a bottle right now to check the label. You should not worry about the quality of Mobil 1 vs BMW branded oil. It's excellent full synthetic (although make sure that's what you bought because they do make blended oil).

xpunisherx · 10-02-2015, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFlyingMouse

If it meets BMW LL-01 then you're good to go. Don't have access to a bottle right now to check the label. You should not worry about the quality of Mobil 1 vs BMW branded oil. It's excellent full synthetic (although make sure that's what you bought because they do make blended oil).

Bmwguy11 · 10-03-2015, 08:43 PM

Mobil 1 0w-40 meets the BMW LL01 spec.

https://mobiloil.com/en/motor-oils/mobil-1/mobil-1

Mobil 1 0W-40 has the following builder approvals:
MB-Approval 229.3
MB-Approval 229.5
BMW LONGLIFE OIL 01
VW 502 00/505 00
PORSCHE A40

I usually get mine at walmart.

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nicknaz Lieutenant General 3189 Rep 10,509 Posts Drives: C6Z Join Date: May 2008 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	I wanted to buy a quart of this 0w40 to keep in the trunk but my local dealer only stocks the 5w30. Anyone have any tech on the differences it makes? Should I order the 0w40 and insist that get used for the oil changes? In theory I agree higher viscosity is better for engines run hard but is there truly a difference here?
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RocketBoots Colonel 1860 Rep 2,104 Posts Drives: Horse Drawn Carriage Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (3)	I don't think there's any definitive answer to that, by a long shot. I just bought 7 quarts for my in-between oil change. I doubt I will notice any change from the 5-30 the dealer put in. Just wanted the M-specific oil to try out. Also, I was gonna get shell euro-spec oil, but it isn't any cheaper than the BMW branded stuff, so I went with BMW. If it suddenly feels like I got a JB4 tune, I'll let everyone know.
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aus Major General 894 Rep 9,034 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	Interesting. I wonder if it has any advantage to Mobil 1 0W40 that's been used in BMW, MB, Porsche and Ferrari for years? It's also $25 for 5 quarts at Walmart. . __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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morgan302 Second Lieutenant 91 Rep 299 Posts Drives: m3 2015 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: atlanta iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 M3 [0.00] 2015 BMW M3 [0.00]	The two weights are just operating ranges for the oil.
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nicknaz Lieutenant General 3189 Rep 10,509 Posts Drives: C6Z Join Date: May 2008 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	Anyone who's tracked their car have used oil analysis at this point? I'm particularly interested in whether the 5W30 shears down to a lower weight
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Fast4d Captain 267 Rep 885 Posts Drives: 325 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: So cal iTrader: (0)	I will be using amsoil 0w-40 euro is has all the ratings. ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4 BMW LL-01
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sh55 Lieutenant 221 Rep 433 Posts Drives: %E2%80%9805 E46 ZCP 6MT and '9 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Brooklyn NY iTrader: (0)	I put the Shell 0W-40 in my M4 over the weekend and drove 200+ miles into Maine the next day. Car feels exactly the same as it did with 5W-30, but I'm happy to have the ///M specific oil in there now. I'll be requesting it from my SA when I go on for 10K service. __________________ ______________________________ ?05 E46 M3 ZCP 6MT ?06 C55 AMG '97 911S 6MT
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nicknaz Lieutenant General 3189 Rep 10,509 Posts Drives: C6Z Join Date: May 2008 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	quick bump.. this oil isn't available at my local socal dealer
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10-02-2015, 09:13 AM	#38
xpunisherx First Lieutenant 49 Rep 315 Posts Drives: 2015 F82 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Killeen, TX iTrader: (3)	Anyone using Mobile 1 0W-40? It meets the same specifications as BMW oil (at least on the label). I am just curious as I approach my 5k mile mid service oil change. Thanks for any input. __________________ SOLD: 2015 F82 Yas Marina Blue / M Performance Exhaust / Black Kidney Grill SOLD: 2011 E92 LeMans Blue / Volk RE-30 / CF: Spoiler, Splitters, Nostrils, Kidneys, Gills
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10-03-2015, 08:43 PM	#44
Bmwguy11 Lieutenant Colonel 1252 Rep 1,760 Posts Drives: 2016 YMB M3 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Wisconsin iTrader: (1)	Mobil 1 0w-40 meets the BMW LL01 spec. https://mobiloil.com/en/motor-oils/mobil-1/mobil-1 Mobil 1 0W-40 has the following builder approvals: MB-Approval 229.3 MB-Approval 229.5 BMW LONGLIFE OIL 01 VW 502 00/505 00 PORSCHE A40 I usually get mine at walmart.
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