[Cgdigisco]

Has anyone used the iSweep pads on the track? 1500 or 2000? This is almost exclusively a daily, but I actually plan to get it on a local track a few times. Not trying to set any records, but would like to get more experience on road courses like I did with my old Blackwing.

[86zccrx]

Originally Posted by Cgdigisco

Has anyone used the iSweep pads on the track? 1500 or 2000? This is almost exclusively a daily, but I actually plan to get it on a local track a few times. Not trying to set any records, but would like to get more experience on road courses like I did with my old Blackwing.

I think there was a post on the M3 forum a bit ago where somebody used their iSweeps on the track and they were toast after a day. They may have been the 1500s, but I don't remember.
Ultimately when they say not meant for track use they mean it.

[Ronin76]

[Mikesbimmer]

Originally Posted by Ronin76

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjrfPIhR-jE&t=109s

Great video! My experience has been similar. Nice to see a video like this contributing so much value to the Bimmerpost community.

[rons e92]

Alright I need some real world feedback from the guys who have some miles on these pads.

I'm sick of the dust. I got my car cleaned yesterday and on the 18 mile drive home my wheels became covered in dust again. I dealt with it for long enough, bought satin black wheels to hide it, I try to not hit the breaks while driving, and all of this to deal with the dust, I'm done.

I'm reluctant to get after marker pads, or really change anything with the breaks because I race this car. Coming into the bank at Pocono at 150+ or hitting the shutdown over 140 at the end of the quarter mile, the last thing I ever want to have to deal with is underperforming or failing brakes.

Have any of you guys noticed and diminished break feel with any of these I sweep pads, specifically when braking hard from a high speed?

How different is that initial bite?

Have you noticed any fade? Sometimes I hot lap the car at Pocono and will do 4-5 back to back roll races.

Thanks in advance.

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by rons e92

Alright I need some real world feedback from the guys who have some miles on these pads.

I'm sick of the dust. I got my car cleaned yesterday and on the 18 mile drive home my wheels became covered in dust again. I dealt with it for long enough, bought satin black wheels to hide it, I try to not hit the breaks while driving, and all of this to deal with the dust, I'm done.

I'm reluctant to get after marker pads, or really change anything with the breaks because I race this car. Coming into the bank at Pocono at 150+ or hitting the shutdown over 140 at the end of the quarter mile, the last thing I ever want to have to deal with is underperforming or failing brakes.

Have any of you guys noticed and diminished break feel with any of these I sweep pads, specifically when braking hard from a high speed?

How different is that initial bite?

Have you noticed any fade? Sometimes I hot lap the car at Pocono and will do 4-5 back to back roll races.

Thanks in advance.

If you track, maybe go with the 2000s or higher and not the 1500s.

[MASHCT]

Originally Posted by Cgdigisco

Has anyone used the iSweep pads on the track? 1500 or 2000? This is almost exclusively a daily, but I actually plan to get it on a local track a few times. Not trying to set any records, but would like to get more experience on road courses like I did with my old Blackwing.

Howdy! iSweep says not to use the 1500s on the track. The pads were so easy to swap out, I am not too concerned about needing a separate set of streetable track pads that lean heavier on the track side of things. I am definitely gonna be tracking the car this year.
Are you tracking your OEM pads - I noticed you said you "race" your car. I think even the OEM pads are not recommended for aggressive tracking. Could be wrong there, but I swear I saw someone said the OEM pads are not for aggressive tracking. (??)

I didn't have my OEM pads on long enough to really assess or feel any huge difference between them & the iSweep 1500 but I can say initial.bite is not as strong. Street driving, even when I am having safe fun, no issues at all. I do not go crazy on the street as I'm not an idiot. The car stops just fine, slows just fine and I thing the iSweep 1500s are awesomely performing pads for the M2.

Plus, they're WAY cleaner and the dust blows right off a coated wheel.. OEM dust is just god awful. That alone makes the 1500s worth it to me.

There is a member who put in some good specs that show objectively the OEM pads perform better and it's real but slight margins.

[Ehloo]

going to add my experience having a some more miles on the brakes. the dust is night and day. literally i can go weeks without washing the wheels and they look decently clean unlike on the oems with 5 miles and they are covered

the initial bite is nothing like oem but you get used to it. the pads do need to get warmed up and feel terrible if not. obviously worse in the winter months right when you drive off but pay attention it’s something to be cautioned about

to be honest they are not quick to install. maybe the work is “easy” it takes time and tools. i dont have the time to be switching them out on the occasion track day but maybe i will learn lesson and spend the time. took me about 3 hours but i didnt have the right tools. the rear bolt needs a thin wall wrench. nobody seems to mention that on the videos and someone else confirmed they had the same issue with there’s. of course you have to jack the car up, remove the wheels, unscrew some bolts. fronts are much easier to do than the rears and don’t need to deal with the ebrake if you are auto.

i highly suggest you use the brake grease they give you. i didn’t and i have brake clunk noise when reversing slowly. i did use some grease from local auto store. i will need to eventually do the install again and re-grease but as mentioned it was not a quick install

Originally Posted by MASHCT

Howdy! iSweep says not to use the 1500s on the track. The pads were so easy to swap out, I am not too concerned about needing a separate set of streetable track pads that lean heavier on the track side of things. I am definitely gonna be tracking the car this year.
Are you tracking your OEM pads - I noticed you said you "race" your car. I think even the OEM pads are not recommended for aggressive tracking. Could be wrong there, but I swear I saw someone said the OEM pads are not for aggressive tracking. (??)

I didn't have my OEM pads on long enough to really assess or feel any huge difference between them & the iSweep 1500 but I can say initial.bite is not as strong. Street driving, even when I am having safe fun, no issues at all. I do not go crazy on the street as I'm not an idiot. The car stops just fine, slows just fine and I thing the iSweep 1500s are awesomely performing pads for the M2.

Plus, they're WAY cleaner and the dust blows right off a coated wheel.. OEM dust is just god awful. That alone makes the 1500s worth it to me.

There is a member who put in some good specs that show objectively the OEM pads perform better and it's real but slight margins.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by Ehloo

going to add my experience having a some more miles on the brakes. the dust is night and day. literally i can go weeks without washing the wheels and they look decently clean unlike on the oems with 5 miles and they are covered

the initial bite is nothing like oem but you get used to it. the pads do need to get warmed up and feel terrible if not. obviously worse in the winter months right when you drive off but pay attention it’s something to be cautioned about

to be honest they are not quick to install. maybe the work is “easy” it takes time and tools. i dont have the time to be switching them out on the occasion track day but maybe i will learn lesson and spend the time. took me about 3 hours but i didnt have the right tools. the rear bolt needs a thin wall wrench. nobody seems to mention that on the videos and someone else confirmed they had the same issue with there’s. of course you have to jack the car up, remove the wheels, unscrew some bolts. fronts are much easier to do than the rears and don’t need to deal with the ebrake if you are auto.

i highly suggest you use the brake grease they give you. i didn’t and i have brake clunk noise when reversing slowly. i did use some grease from local auto store. i will need to eventually do the install again and re-grease but as mentioned it was not a quick install

I respectfully disagree with the above points. Pads took less than an hour to install for all 4. Yes having the right tools is important, but's it 2 sockets, a wrench and a torx bit (for the rear parking brake). If you want to do it to spec, have a torque wrench to torque the caliper bolts appropriately.

The "initial bite" is no different than stock, and the stopping is much more linear/less grabby than stock. The pads don't need to be warmed up either, nor do they feel terrible in cold temps (I've driven with them down to single-digit temps). Emergency stopping from high speeds (80+ mph) is not an issue either.

I have a combined 45k miles on the iSweep 1500 pads on two vehicles ('22 X3MC & '23 M2 auto). I also have another high-performance vehicle with carbon ceramic brakes & I feel as confident in the stopping ability of my M vehicles as I do with that one.

[///MoT]

Just finished installing my rear iSweep 1500 pads earlier today. I did the front ones two days ago. I can already tell a huge difference in the amount of brake dust left on my front wheels after two days/80 miles of driving: almost none.

I didn't notice much difference in brake feel, but now that I have all of them done I'll provide more feedback in a week or two. I had about 3100 miles on the stock pads, so a decent amount of time with them and the horrible amount of brake dust they produced. So glad to be finally done with them.

[Cgdigisco]

Originally Posted by MASHCT

Howdy! iSweep says not to use the 1500s on the track. The pads were so easy to swap out, I am not too concerned about needing a separate set of streetable track pads that lean heavier on the track side of things. I am definitely gonna be tracking the car this year.
Are you tracking your OEM pads - I noticed you said you "race" your car. I think even the OEM pads are not recommended for aggressive tracking. Could be wrong there, but I swear I saw someone said the OEM pads are not for aggressive tracking. (??)

I didn't have my OEM pads on long enough to really assess or feel any huge difference between them & the iSweep 1500 but I can say initial.bite is not as strong. Street driving, even when I am having safe fun, no issues at all. I do not go crazy on the street as I'm not an idiot. The car stops just fine, slows just fine and I thing the iSweep 1500s are awesomely performing pads for the M2.

Plus, they're WAY cleaner and the dust blows right off a coated wheel.. OEM dust is just god awful. That alone makes the 1500s worth it to me.

There is a member who put in some good specs that show objectively the OEM pads perform better and it's real but slight margins.

Thank you for your input! I wasn’t actually the one who said he’s going to race his car, I’ll probably just do a couple of track days here and there. PCA goes to summit point which isn’t too far from me

[BIGW0RM]

Originally Posted by Cgdigisco

Thank you for your input! I wasn’t actually the one who said he’s going to race his car, I’ll probably just do a couple of track days here and there. PCA goes to summit point which isn’t too far from me

Ben at RG Sport is the us distributor. I believe he suggests the 3500’s for track or auto x use.

[Ehloo]

it’s interesting as everyone is having much different experiences. i can’t even fathom being able to install all 4 in less than an hour. important note on autos if you don’t have the proper tool to release the ebrake you need to a piston compressor. working with that ancient device takes a little fiddling and time.

installing these in less than an hour is likely to require all ideal tools. Car fully lifted, computer assistance for the ebrake etc.

this is an install i am not rushing. if you are talking just the pads themselves maybe but the whole process of lifting the car, possible jack stands, re-torquing wheels. not even close.

Originally Posted by JABCAT

I respectfully disagree with the above points. Pads took less than an hour to install for all 4. Yes having the right tools is important, but's it 2 sockets, a wrench and a torx bit (for the rear parking brake). If you want to do it to spec, have a torque wrench to torque the caliper bolts appropriately.

The "initial bite" is no different than stock, and the stopping is much more linear/less grabby than stock. The pads don't need to be warmed up either, nor do they feel terrible in cold temps (I've driven with them down to single-digit temps). Emergency stopping from high speeds (80+ mph) is not an issue either.

I have a combined 45k miles on the iSweep 1500 pads on two vehicles ('22 X3MC & '23 M2 auto). I also have another high-performance vehicle with carbon ceramic brakes & I feel as confident in the stopping ability of my M vehicles as I do with that one.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by Ehloo

it’s interesting as everyone is having much different experiences. i can’t even fathom being able to install all 4 in less than an hour. important note on autos if you don’t have the proper tool to release the ebrake you need to a piston compressor. working with that ancient device takes a little fiddling and time.

installing these in less than an hour is likely to require all ideal tools. Car fully lifted, computer assistance for the ebrake etc.

this is an install i am not rushing. if you are talking just the pads themselves maybe but the whole process of lifting the car, possible jack stands, re-torquing wheels. not even close.

You only need a torx bit to release the parking brake. I did one corner at a time. Jack corner up, remove lug bolts & tire takes less than 2 min maybe. For fronts, remove caliper bolts (1 min), remove pins (1 min), remove caliper & pop the pads out. Slide new pads in, & reverse the process. The fronts should realistically take leas than 20 min total for both if taking your time.

The rears take a little longer because of the parking brake, but 20 min each side is plenty of time. The more you do it, the more efficient you become. My wife's X3MC was the first which took me maybe an hour 20.

[MASHCT]

Originally Posted by Ehloo

it’s interesting as everyone is having much different experiences. i can’t even fathom being able to install all 4 in less than an hour. important note on autos if you don’t have the proper tool to release the ebrake you need to a piston compressor. working with that ancient device takes a little fiddling and time.

installing these in less than an hour is likely to require all ideal tools. Car fully lifted, computer assistance for the ebrake etc.

this is an install i am not rushing. if you are talking just the pads themselves maybe but the whole process of lifting the car, possible jack stands, re-torquing wheels. not even close.

I don't think it took me much longer than an hour. Most of the time was me watching the youtube videos while I was doing it & lifting the car. Removing & reinstalling the pads is a piece of cake!

Another thing you can do to compress the rear pistons is turn the car on & release the parking break. You'll even hear the brakes retract.

And agree with JabCat - now that I've done it once, the next time will go way smoother/quicker.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by MASHCT

Another thing you can do to compress the rear pistons is turn the car on & release the parking break. You'll even hear the brakes retract.

If the new pads are no more than a fraction of a mm thicker than the old pads that will work. Otherwise the parking brake release only retracts a small amount and needs either an appropriate maintenance mode command to fully retract, or removal of the parking brake motor to mechanically retract the adjuster, to allow for thicker / new pads.

[Ronin76]

Ok guys, I will be ordering the 1500s shortly but was hoping someone can tell me what the bedding process is for the 1500s?

Is it driving like 60mph and then slamming on the brakes (and hoping nobody rear ends me)?

[WestchesterX5]

I swapped out the stock pads for sweep in my first 400 miles of driving. Total game changer! Brake dust is basically nonexistent after ceramic coating the wheels and calipers.

10/10 recommended.

[BroDoze]

Originally Posted by Ronin76

Ok guys, I will be ordering the 1500s shortly but was hoping someone can tell me what the bedding process is for the 1500s?

Is it driving like 60mph and then slamming on the brakes (and hoping nobody rear ends me)?

No bedding process. Get in and drive, per the US distributor. And.. he’s right.

[Ronin76]

Originally Posted by BroDoze

No bedding process. Get in and drive, per the US distributor. And.. he’s right.

Nice!!

[r33_RGSport]

Originally Posted by Ronin76

Great video. Thank you for sharing.