Landlord legal issue

dr_frankfurter · 07-02-2021, 01:21 AM

Friend's landlord said he was going to change the flooring in his condo, without charge. After the landlord completed it, he yelled at the tenant and said he owes him 4 grand or he will be evicted if he doesn't pay. There's no agreement or contract between the tenant and landlord for the work that was done. Knowing the landlord, he will most likely take legal action as he threatened to do so. How would one approach a lawyer for this? Do either side have a right or wrong?

overcoil · 07-02-2021, 02:06 AM

check the jurisdictions RENT COURT page .GOV
Mediation may be first step.

lot depends on the lease/rent contract agreement regardless.

No one · 07-02-2021, 03:47 AM

The landlord processed his own property. Why would a tenant pay for that (unless he is responsible for the damage fixed)? Let the landlord yell at court after the tenant puts him there by means of his foot.

From the description it looks like an extortion. (This is a common sense based opinion, not from knowledge of applicable laws or the contract.)

DenverSteve · 08-11-2021, 12:41 AM

If there's no written contract, or agreement, it doesn't exist. If your friend has a lease, that is what is enforceable. Regardless, a hostile landlord could make their life unpleasant. It might be time to start looking for a new place to live. If I had the option, I wouldn't want to subsidize a person like that.

W Cole · 08-11-2021, 12:50 AM

What state is this in? California for example has some very tenant friendly laws.

It’s almost impossible to evict a tenant right now with covid.

Is there a lease in-place with term remaining?

Sounds like the landlord is trying to pull a fast one and is hoping the tenant is naive.

fiveohwblow · 08-11-2021, 01:11 AM

$100 says OP is said landlord

dr_frankfurter · 08-11-2021, 01:55 AM

As an update everything worked out fine and the landlord took no action against him. fiveohwblow "Bring me my money"

Wolf 335 · 08-11-2021, 06:53 AM

What kinda update is that lol

"Worked out fine" in what way?

Wolf 335 · 08-11-2021, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dr_frankfurter

As an update everything worked out fine and the landlord took no action against him. fiveohwblow "Bring me my money"

I'm with FCobra on this one. Can you provide some more details?

BMWILUVU · 08-11-2021, 10:09 AM

Landlord is lucky he is paying any rent at all.

6oclockshadow · 08-11-2021, 10:57 AM

Sounds like there's a lot more to this story...

dr_frankfurter · 08-11-2021, 12:55 PM

Friend moved out without any eviction or issues. Dealt with the manager instead of the landlord and moved out within 2 weeks, with no more drama.

TheWatchGuy · 08-11-2021, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FCobra94

What kinda update is that lol

"Worked out fine" in what way?

OP saw he was in the wrong trying to force them to pay 4k and dropped it

dr_frankfurter · 08-11-2021, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWatchGuy

OP saw he was in the wrong trying to force them to pay 4k and dropped it

Don't go playing detective, I'm not the landlord.

fiveohwblow · 08-11-2021, 02:19 PM

TheWatchGuy · 08-11-2021, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dr_frankfurter

Don't go playing detective, I'm not the landlord.

just the thing a shitty landlord would say

UncleWede · 08-12-2021, 04:18 PM

OP is Joe Pesci, aka "The Super"

Dang3r · 08-12-2021, 06:53 PM

Dunno how this is treaten into the US and its several counties, but Im a landlord by myself and had rented my condo to a couple.
When Im going to improve my own property in any way I have to inform the tenant before I start and when he has to pay for my choosen improvement he has the right to refuse this unless it is absolutely necessary by means of the security of the rest of the building e.g.
To charge a tenant for unwanted and at least unnecessary improvements is doubtful and wouldnt in your told case have any success at the courts - in Germany.

c1pher · 08-12-2021, 07:11 PM

Contact an attorney, not a bunch of people responding from their parents’ basement.

fiveohwblow · 08-12-2021, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by c1pher

Contact an attorney, not a bunch of people responding from their parents’ basement.

Guess again, I’m on the second floor. Jokes on you.

c1pher · 08-12-2021, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fiveohwblow

Guess again, I’m on the second floor. Jokes on you.

You all know me enough to know I apply a good bit of sarcasm. Not every slacker lives in their parents’ basement. They can share a small apartment with other slackers too.

UncleWede · 08-12-2021, 10:07 PM

I pay off my house 2/23

It's my son and neice living in the "basement"

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dr_frankfurter non-essential 504 Rep 453 Posts Drives: '16 535i Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	Landlord legal issue Friend's landlord said he was going to change the flooring in his condo, without charge. After the landlord completed it, he yelled at the tenant and said he owes him 4 grand or he will be evicted if he doesn't pay. There's no agreement or contract between the tenant and landlord for the work that was done. Knowing the landlord, he will most likely take legal action as he threatened to do so. How would one approach a lawyer for this? Do either side have a right or wrong?
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overcoil Major General 3153 Rep 5,582 Posts Drives: M235i 6spd Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Mid-Atlantic iTrader: (0)	check the jurisdictions RENT COURT page .GOV Mediation may be first step. lot depends on the lease/rent contract agreement regardless.
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No one Major 1132 Rep 1,467 Posts Drives: F21 118i Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Undisclosed iTrader: (0)	The landlord processed his own property. Why would a tenant pay for that (unless he is responsible for the damage fixed)? Let the landlord yell at court after the tenant puts him there by means of his foot. From the description it looks like an extortion. (This is a common sense based opinion, not from knowledge of applicable laws or the contract.)
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DenverSteve Lieutenant 964 Rep 537 Posts Drives: 2021 BMW Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Denver / L.A. iTrader: (0)	If there's no written contract, or agreement, it doesn't exist. If your friend has a lease, that is what is enforceable. Regardless, a hostile landlord could make their life unpleasant. It might be time to start looking for a new place to live. If I had the option, I wouldn't want to subsidize a person like that.
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W Cole Major 148 Rep 1,129 Posts Drives: 2009 M3 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Newport Coast, CA iTrader: (5)	What state is this in? California for example has some very tenant friendly laws. It’s almost impossible to evict a tenant right now with covid. Is there a lease in-place with term remaining? Sounds like the landlord is trying to pull a fast one and is hoping the tenant is naive.
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dr_frankfurter non-essential 504 Rep 453 Posts Drives: '16 535i Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	As an update everything worked out fine and the landlord took no action against him. fiveohwblow "Bring me my money"
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dr_frankfurter non-essential 504 Rep 453 Posts Drives: '16 535i Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	Friend moved out without any eviction or issues. Dealt with the manager instead of the landlord and moved out within 2 weeks, with no more drama.
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