[Hendo741]

Originally Posted by 702MoxyBMW

What I can say after owning the car for a few months is the idea of losing my warranty this early for flashing the ECU or unlocking it seems like a gamble. Further down the road, maybe I would. Right now I don't see it happening. I got a JB4 recently but haven't done the install yet. Been busy but we do have 100 octane fuel pretty readily available here I just saw.

JB4 can get a warranty claim denied just as easy FYI.

[XC3LLR8]

Originally Posted by rashannon81

MHD has just announced their support for the FEMTO unlock!

This is unraveling pretty quickly. I have not inquired on logging capabilites, it only states logging is there for the g80. But I don't imagine the g42 is much different. Likely haven't tested it yet or it's soon to come.

Should there be any concerns with shipping a product, and expecting it returned, to a country we're on the brink of war with?

[femtoevo]

Originally Posted by XC3LLR8

Should there be any concerns with shipping a product, and expecting it returned, to a country we're on the brink of war with?

Or shipping to a country, where snow, bears and vodka everywhere...?
C'mon guys, just watch "Wag the dog" movie and think about this situation from the different point of view.

[BeemerBaron]

Originally Posted by 702MoxyBMW

What I can say after owning the car for a few months is the idea of losing my warranty this early for flashing the ECU or unlocking it seems like a gamble. Further down the road, maybe I would. Right now I don't see it happening. I got a JB4 recently but haven't done the install yet. Been busy but we do have 100 octane fuel pretty readily available here I just saw.

The JB4 is an easy install:

[dabovender]

Originally Posted by Hendo741

JB4 can get a warranty claim denied just as easy FYI.

they would have to prove beyond a doubt that the tune caused the part failure to deny warranty.

been there done that, and they could not do such

[Hendo741]

Originally Posted by dabovender

they would have to prove beyond a doubt that the tune caused the part failure to deny warranty.

been there done that, and they could not do such

Must have brought the B team lawyers.

More boost = more power = operating outside specifications = failure = deny claim.

[XC3LLR8]

Originally Posted by Hendo741

Must have brought the B team lawyers.

More boost = more power = operating outside specifications = failure = deny claim.

I agree. If the warranty claim is engine related it should be easy for BMW to stand behind "Warranty Void" if they can show parameters were exceeded beyond OEM specs. If I was the dealer I wouldn't budge. Apples & Apples.

What the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act protects is the a-hole dealerships that want to deny your warranty claim for a heated seat not working while having a JB4 installed. Apples & Oranges.

[Dinosoar]

Okay, which is better (namely for use and reliability) for a plug-in tune device...Burger's JB4 or Dinan's Dinantronics?

I'd rather have a reliable process and a safe engine, than more power. Both have gains I'm happy with, just don't know the ills of either. Trolling the Internet for feedback is up and down. I know the Dinan is so much cheaper, but is that a problem?

[Dynamodux]

Have a look in the g20 section of this forum lots of info there that may help

[702MoxyBMW]

Originally Posted by Hendo741

Must have brought the B team lawyers.

More boost = more power = operating outside specifications = failure = deny claim.

Yes, this is my modest concern here. I haven't put the JB4 on yet based on the risk/reward part. I may mess with it next month and just try the conservative maps.

[Hendo741]

Originally Posted by 702MoxyBMW

Yes, this is my modest concern here. I haven't put the JB4 on yet based on the risk/reward part. I may mess with it next month and just try the conservative maps.

If you're just running map 1 or 2 I don't think you have much to worry about. They're fairly conservative and have built in safties, but there's always a chance.

[702MoxyBMW]

How crazy do the maps go? in theory how much hp/tq bump will you get from the second map?

[jbazz]

Originally Posted by Dinosoar

Okay, which is better (namely for use and reliability) for a plug-in tune device...Burger's JB4 or Dinan's Dinantronics?

I'd rather have a reliable process and a safe engine, than more power. Both have gains I'm happy with, just don't know the ills of either. Trolling the Internet for feedback is up and down. I know the Dinan is so much cheaper, but is that a problem?

I have had a JB4 running on my b48 (X3 for close to 3 years) with zero issues. It made a signifiant difference, well worth it. My local dealer also sold the Dinan as a dealer supported add on.

[702MoxyBMW]

Originally Posted by Hendo741

I'll be keeping an eye on the situation as well, although I am unlikely to send the ECU to FEMTO for an unlock for this car as it is a placeholder until my M4CX arrives.

Some friendly advice in the interim, the JB4 is actually a pretty good device and decent performance gain for the cost. I was skeptical at first and have literal hundreds of logs between my Supra and M240. I log and pull out each run and throw them into virtual dyno for comparison. Cant deny that it works.

Figuring out the Xdrive programming with a locked ECU is going to be a challenge as well, and it probably wont be long before you reach its limits. I'll be sharing any and all info I get here and hope you will do the same!

I keep thinking about the order for the M4CX you have there. Are you keeping both cars eventually?

[Hendo741]

It's funny you posted this yesterday. I picked up the M4 yesterday and traded in the G42. I decided I'll give then M4 a chance and if for some reason I'm unhappy with it, I'll order a G42 with the exact spec I want and sell the M4. The one I had I bought off a dealer lot and wasn't my exact desired build. I would also have to swap some M sport seats into it lol. WHY ISNT THIS AN OPTION IN THE US MARKET????

And for those that will read this and have a coronary about "nOt TrUe M KaR!", it's not that I think the G42 is a better car than the M4 outright, it's about performance per dollar and value. Yes the G82 is going to be a better car, but if the G42 is 85% of a G82 at 66% of the price....

Pic of the M4CX:

[giolanzarin]

Originally Posted by Hendo741

It's funny you posted this yesterday. I picked up the M4 yesterday and traded in the G42. I decided I'll give then M4 a chance and if for some reason I'm unhappy with it, I'll order a G42 with the exact spec I want and sell the M4. The one I had I bought off a dealer lot and wasn't my exact desired build. I would also have to swap some M sport seats into it lol. WHY ISNT THIS AN OPTION IN THE US MARKET????

And for those that will read this and have a coronary about "nOt TrUe M KaR!", it's not that I think the G42 is a better car than the M4 outright, it's about performance per dollar and value. Yes the G82 is going to be a better car, but if the G42 is 85% of a G82 at 66% of the price....

Pic of the M4CX:

People whining about the G42 and calling it a "non M car" are just butthurt their "true M car" can't compete with the G42 lmao

[SpaceGhost]

Originally Posted by Hendo741

And for those that will read this and have a coronary about "nOt TrUe M KaR!", it's not that I think the G42 is a better car than the M4 outright, it's about performance per dollar and value. Yes the G82 is going to be a better car, but if the G42 is 85% of a G82 at 66% of the price....
Pic of the M4CX:

This is why I cancelled my M3 order. I save $30k and still get all the performance I can use. I lose the cache of having a true M but I think I will manage. I had an M4 and even though it was great, I missed my tuned 135i

[XC3LLR8]

Originally Posted by Hendo741

Pic of the M4CX:

Beautiful color! What is it?

If $ isn't a concern I'd take the M4 hands down! Then again, I just read the richest human on earth doesn't own a house, so maybe I'm looking at this all wrong?

[702MoxyBMW]

Originally Posted by Hendo741

It's funny you posted this yesterday. I picked up the M4 yesterday and traded in the G42. I decided I'll give then M4 a chance and if for some reason I'm unhappy with it, I'll order a G42 with the exact spec I want and sell the M4. The one I had I bought off a dealer lot and wasn't my exact desired build. I would also have to swap some M sport seats into it lol. WHY ISNT THIS AN OPTION IN THE US MARKET????

And for those that will read this and have a coronary about "nOt TrUe M KaR!", it's not that I think the G42 is a better car than the M4 outright, it's about performance per dollar and value. Yes the G82 is going to be a better car, but if the G42 is 85% of a G82 at 66% of the price....

Pic of the M4CX:

I agree with you on the percentage of performance. That is why I went with the M2 comp a year ago as my main aim. The M4/M3 has gotten pretty pricey. I had one in 09' or so and it was far cheaper with the E92 variety. I get that they have more technology but man the prices have shot thru the roof. That is a sick car tho

[jbazz]

Originally Posted by Hendo741

And for those that will read this and have a coronary about "nOt TrUe M KaR!", it's not that I think the G42 is a better car than the M4 outright, it's about performance per dollar and value. Yes the G82 is going to be a better car, but if the G42 is 85% of a G82 at 66% of the price....

Pic of the M4CX:

Beautiful ride! and I agree on the seats! My salesman had a G82, sold it back to his dealership as soon as his G42 came in. He loves the G42 and has zero regrets - mainly for the reasons you mention above.

Nothing against the M4, for many its their perfect car, I feel most would not use the potential you are paying for on a daily basis.

[SpaceGhost]

Originally Posted by XC3LLR8

Beautiful color! What is it?

If $ isn't a concern I'd take the M4 hands down! Then again, I just read the richest human on earth doesn't own a house, so maybe I'm looking at this all wrong?

Pretty sure that is Brooklyn Gray

[XC3LLR8]

Originally Posted by SpaceGhost

Pretty sure that is Brooklyn Gray

That would be nice since that's what I have on order, but pretty sure it's not.