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Just depends what you read around here I guess. I have seen other posts saying they "will" add it as an option and that the Z4 will be around a while longer. No one has an actual working crystal ball so it's impossible to really know.
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I would be ALL OVER another Z4M!
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I bought the ZL1 ``
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However, since the GR is gearing up to make its debut and a (B58) manual Z4 hasn't yet materialized, even as a concept, the rumor is slowly fizzling out into obscurity. https://www.bmwblog.com/2022/08/28/b...ion-confirmed/ |
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For those that are unaware, the G89 Z4 and GR Supra are produced in the same factory and on the same production line by Magna Steyr in Austria. https://www.magna.com/company/compan...ps/magna-steyr |
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I am sure you will like it. I have a colleague that is ordering one in red. 200 extra ponies. Tempting for sure. Good for you!
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I have driven on the track a handful of times so I am by no means a professional so take my opinion with a grain of salt. From the get go (getting in and starting it up) the GT cars just feel different. I don’t know if it is the appearance, the fit and finish or what but there is no mistaking that you are in a car that was purpose built for a racetrack. They are incredibly precise with both steering and throttle response, and the PDK is phenomenal and really made me consider whether I need a manual. The GT3 is on a completely different level than anything I have driven before. There were times going around corners that my mind was having a hard time processing how the car wasn’t coming loose. Also, the sound above 8k is something else. Stepping into the G80 I didn’t have that same awe factor, but I think that is what makes it so great. It is an absolute beast and is a lot more lively than the P cars. To me the P cars are more special, the GT4 is 10/10 for looks for me and the sound is just awesome. Having said all that I had just as much with the M3, it wasn’t as pretty or fast, but it had a bigger personality for sure. |
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Personally, the most fun, dynamic cars I have driven remain BWMs. Nothing else came to that level for me. I am curious to hear your opinion on BMW "feel" comparing to P-Cars. Much appreciated.
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The 986 you drove is more akin to a Miata then a modern Porsche in the way it drives. They were softly sprung, the automatics weren't good, the manuals were spongy and full of plastic, the engine was blah, etc, etc ,etc. They aren't a representation of the modern Boxster, Cayman or 911. |
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